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My Warlock is in an abusive relationship with Tommy's Matchbook and yours can be too! With the following build we explore the wonders of new seasonal mods, the charged with light system, self-damage synergy, and masochism.
Hey Guardians!
I’ve been a long-time lurker on here, but I’ve been having so much fun with this build I created that I just couldn’t help but share it. This build uses one of my favorite exotics, Tommy’s Matchbook. I fell in love with this gun the moment it came out and have used it enough for my warlock to be considered a masochist. But as much as I love Tommy even, I must admit the gun has some serious flaws. The most obvious of these being self-damage (duh), and an abysmal reload speed. So, my goal was to solve these flaws while also creating a synergistic build of my favorite class (warlock) that could take on high level content. This is the result. Ok so what will you be able to accomplish with this build? · You and your allies will be able to have a consistent character speed boost · You and allies will have a 100 reload and boosted handling consistently · You will have a consistent 50% damage reduction · You will be able to heal yourself in large chunks on demand · You will have boosted grenade damage and cooldown · Your allies will receive boosted grenade cooldowns · You will be able to stun overload champs · Break barrier champs’ shields · You will have a 30% modifier boost to your super damage (in our case chaos reach) · And you will have the option to add and additional 25% damage modifier added to all your ability damage to frozen or slowed targets (pretty sure this includes your super haven’t tested yet) I know that seems like a lot but if you stick with me, I promise to break this build up into small bites to make this as simple and painless as possible. Still here? Dope let’s get started.
Subclass:
Starting things off with our subclass we are going middle tree Stormcaller. Most warlocks go the bottom tree void walker route and for good reason. Devour synergizes incredibly well with Tommy as it solves the self-damage problem pretty well. But we won’t be going this for a few reasons A. we have other more effective tools to solve the self-damage problem, B. it doesn’t address Tommy’s reload, and C. bungie unfortunately hates Nova Bomb and it simply can’t hang with some of the other super options warlocks have at their disposal with some of these new seasonal mods and exotic support we got. These and the reasons below are why we are going middle tree Stormcaller.
Pulsewave:
This is the big one. In bungie terms Pulsewave does this “being critically wounded triggers an energy wave that boosts yours and allies’ speed”. What that actually means is you and your allies get a plus 100 to your weapons reload stat, a pretty generous boost to weapon handling, and a speed boost that is comparable to killing wind, oh and all of these boosts last ten seconds. All for the low low price of being critically wounded (shields depleted) which we were going to do anyway thanks to Tommy.
Chaos Reach:
While Tommy is an add clearing machine it’s not great at burning through bosses or generating quick bursts of damage. Luckily, we have this monster of a super. One of the best damaging supers we Warlocks have at our disposable, the Kamehameha absolutely shreds bosses and majors. Plus, we got a few fun new tools to make it even better, more on that in the mods section.
Ionic Trace:
This is just gravy at this point. Ability regen on kills, easy, straightforward, always helpful. Not much more to say here, it’s great.
Grenade and Rift:
My recommendation here is the pulse nade, the consistent ticks of damage means overloads stay stunned for longer. However, if you want to just drop a ton of damage storm is also great (just be careful not to kill yourself with them). As for rift you gotta go healing. We take lots of damage with this build so it’s never a bad thing to have another source of healing on demand. Now that we know what abilities we are working with let’s talk exotics and other weapons.
Tommy’s Matchbook:
This is the center piece, a beautiful 720 that when you hold down the trigger for 20 rounds ramps up to 99% more damage, you filthy animal! While ignition trigger is doing its thing, we take burn damage which we can reduce by hip firing. Thanks to the catalyst while we are being burned our health recovers much faster too. Something that Bungie doesn’t tell you is this thing’s in air and hipfire accuracy is nutty, but that’s old news for most of you.
Verity’s Brow:
While we are burning through targets with Tommy we are also charging up this exotic. The exotic perk death throws goes up every time you get an energy weapon kill and stacks up to five times speeding up the recharge rate of your grenade and boosting its damage. This plus ionic trace should keep your grenade topped off very often. Plus, every time you throw a grenade you also get to boost your fireteam members grenade recharge. For those of you keeping score, that’s a max reload buff, grenade recharge rate, and speed boost your giving your teammates. Who says warlocks can only play support with middle tree dawn?
Geomags (Alternative Option):
I feel like I’d have to turn in my warlock card if I didn’t mention this as an alternative to Verity’s. This thing is nutty and with the mods we are going to use to boost chaos reach later on it only gets more powerful. Wouldn’t blame you if you wanted to go this route but I personal prefer the team aspect and utility of Verity’s.
Kinetic and Heavy weapons:
For your Kinetic slot you should be using a sniper, any sniper works but if you want my personal favorite for this build, I would use a Succession with recombination and reconstruction. This acts as a baby Izzy and is great for quickly swapping to and deleting majors and barrier champs. If you aren’t lucky enough to have one of those don’t worry any other kinetic sniper with perks focusing on single shot damage and auto reloading (pulse monitor is really good with this build too) will do just fine. As for your heavy slot this is really a personal preference thing. LMGs synergize with sustained charge, but swords and rockets are also super solid. I am mainly using my heavy as another way to take down big non boss targets, so I personally use my old Falling Guillotine (yes, I know this isn’t season of the arrivals. No, I don’t care).
Mods:
OK this is where things start to get a little complicated, so for simplicity sake I will be doing the mod break down armor piece by armor piece showing affinities and energy consumption and then writing a description for the mods used. This is the point where all the parts really start to come together and turn it from a concept to a full-fledged build. I’m going to go into this assuming you have at least some general knowledge about the charged with light system but if not do yourself a favor and find a guide on the basics. My personal recommendations are Fallout Plays’ and Ehroar’s guides, which you can find on their respective YouTube channels. With that disclaimer out of the way let’s dive in.
Helmet:
Affinity Solar Ashes to Assets 3 cost (2x) “Gain bonus super energy on grenade kills” As we are a grenade-based build having a stack of A2A is super helpful for regening our super. Taking charge 3 cost “Become charged with light by picking up orbs of power” Since Tommy can generate orbs of power off of multi Kills this is one of two ways we will get charged with light. Minor Discipline 1 cost Not necessary but a small boost to discipline can only help.
Arms:
Affinity Solar Anti-Barrier sniper 6 cost “Sniper rifles you are wielding fire shield-piercing rounds and stun barrier champions. Sniper rifles deal bonus damage against barrier champions” Pretty straight forward. A tool to eliminate barrier champs (or that one phalanx that really deserved to get its head taken off) Sustained Charge 4 cost “Become charged with light by rapidly defeating combatants with auto rifles, trace rifles, or machine guns. Additional copies of this mod increase the time allowed between combatants that are defeated.” Multikills, in this case three kills in rapid succession within roughly three seconds of each other, charge us with light. Since we are burning through adds with Tommy this is a reliable way to get charge with light from range. If you aren’t in a position to run in and grab an orb this will allow you to still charge up. You may wonder why run both sustained charge and taking charge? For me it’s more of a consistency thing. With this build you need to be charged with light pretty much the whole time and sustained charge provides a way for you to do that at range whereas taking charge allows you to leave orbs to pick up in a pinch when you can’t get kills or to guarantee that you end every fight charged with light and ready for the next engagement.
Chest:
Affinity Void Stacks on Stacks 4 cost “gain an extra stack of charged with light for every stack you gain. –10 recovery” This is another ease of use and consistency thing, with this you have some room for error with how you go about your engagements and if you play it right you will always be able to use both Heal thyself and protective light which we will talk about soon. Sniper Reserves 3 cost (x2) Don’t think I need to explain why this is helpful. We use a sniper, so we want more ammo. You could also use this for your heavy weapon of choice, it’s up to you.
Legs:
Affinity Solar Recuperation 1 cost (x2) “replenishes health each time you pick up an orb of power” This perk is hella underrated this doesn’t trigger regen which is great because Tommy would stop that almost immediately with its burn. Instead, this provides quick huge burst to your health (don’t have the exact numbers but trust me it substantial) further solidifying the playstyle of leaving orbs around as little healing and charge with light checkpoints. Heal Thyself 4 cost “while you are charged with light, grenade final blows heal you and consume one stack of charged with light” Think of this as you oh shit button. Instant healing for when that orb is too far away, or a rift will take just too long to activate. This can be a crazy helpful tool for staying alive and while it isn’t the main star of the build its great for survivability and synergizes well with what we are trying to do. Note, your oh shit button does deal damage to you and can kill you if it hits you before it kills an enemy. Just to be safe make sure your targets are aren’t all up in your grill when you throw. Recovery 4 cost Needs no explanation, if recovery isn’t your jam pick a different stat, I just like it when all the numbers fit perfectly.
Class:
Affinity Void Volatile Conduction 6 cost “Grants bonus arc damage if cast while critically wounded. Lasts until the end of the super activation” When bungie made this mod they were like Chaos reach is good, but it can be better. 30% better to be exact. While these are normally a pain in the ass to activate and often feel super clunky forcing you to let yourself get hit before activating your super, we have no such limitations as we are in an abusive relationship with our primary. This is some big boy damage especially when stacked with debuffs, geo mags, and Focusing Lens which I will mention at the end. Surge Detonators 2 cost “arc grenades disrupt combatants, stunning them, delaying ability regeneration and lowering combatant damage output” Your oh shit button doesn’t only save your ass but stuns champs for long durations thanks to the continuous ticks of the pulse nade. Better yet this will be damage boosted too. Thanks to death throws often all it takes is one nade to just straight up kill a champ. Excellent utility for any content with the annoying teleporty boys. Protective Light 2 cost "While charged with light, you gain significant damage resistance against combatants when your shields are destroyed. This effect consumes all stacks of charged with light. The more stacks consumed, the longer the damage resistance lasts." If Tommy is the star of this build than protective light is the glue that holds it all together. You gain a 50% damage reduction when in the red which allows us to just chill at low health no problem and gives us the time, we need to activate healing abilities. This last for 5 seconds on one charge and 10 with two but this will almost always be using two charges. This mod does so much for us, it lets us safely maximize the damage of Tommy, consistently apply pulse wave, and lets us be crazy tanky after we heal. You may think protective light clashes with heal thyself but since it can’t consume charges while the perk is up, we will still be able to utilize the nade healing as well as still having a backup five seconds after the fact if we take too long to get charged with light back. Alternatively, you can swap Heal Thyself with sustained charge on your legs and replace sustained charge and your helmets solar affinity for protective light and a void affinity. This leaves room for Focusing Lens on your class item allowing you to sacrifice the ability to stun overloads and heal yourself on grenade kills with a 25% modifier buff to all your abilities on targets effected by stasis freeze or slow. This decision all comes down to team composition and activity. That being said you haven’t lived until you and your homie running stasis absolutely nuke a boss with the most powerful chaos reach super known to man.
Playstyle:
So, what does this build look like in action? Let me paint a picture for you. We lay into some ads with Tommy and get charged with light times two from a multikill, ignition trigger tics us down to the red and we get ten seconds of 50% damage reduction, a speed boost, and max reload. You use your newfound speed and damage reduction to run in and pick up the orb Tommy dropped from that same multikill and get sent back to like 80% health with 5 seconds left on your pulse wave and protective light timers and a fresh stack of charged with light x2 you burn through more adds with the rest of Tommy’s ammo and reload it in like a second. Repeat until you find the boss and nuke him with a chaos reach that is 30% more powerful. This damage increase is a modifier which means it can still stack with other modifiers, one buff, and a debuff for some absolutely crazy numbers.
TLDR:
Put these mods on your armor and use these weapons for a highly synergistic build that focuses on survivability with Tommy’s matchbook and middle tree Stormcaller. Helmet: Affinity Solar Ashes to Assets 3 cost (2x) Taking charge 3 cost charged with light. Minor Discipline 1 cost Arms: Affinity Solar Anti-Barrier sniper 6 cost Sustained Charge 4 cost Chest: Affinity Void Stacks on Stacks 4 cost Sniper Reserves 3 cost (x2) Legs: Affinity Solar Recuperation 1 cost (x2) Heal Thyself 4 cost Recovery 4 cost Class: Affinity Void Volatile Conduction 6 cost Surge Detonators 2 cost Protective Light 2 cost Exotics: Tommy’s Matchbook Verity’s Brow or Geomag
Conclusion:
And there you have it. This was definitely longer than I was expecting but hopefully not too hard to get through. If you made it to the end thanks for bearing with me and hopefully you have fun trying out this build or some variation of it in game. This is my first time ever posting something like this so if you have any suggestions or feedback please feel free to share. Likewise, if you have any other cool synergies and want to talk build crafting hit me up, the charged with light system is one of my favorite additions to this game and I am always trying to brainstorm my next build. Edited to fix information regarding chaos reach dps and fixing my inability to spell.
I present what I believe to be the fastest 5e build as of today: the Intercontinental Ballistic Tabaxi (ICBT)
UPDATED, check changelog at the bottom!
Strap into your crash couches and take your anti-inertials, folks. You are going to need them. What if I said you could fly over 34,000 feet in a turn, fully RAW with published content? You start with a Tabaxi with a base movement of 30 feet. And it all goes downhill from there.
Classes:
5 Totem Barbarian for +10 feet from Fast Movement. In addition, take Elk Totem for your level 3 pick. 10 Monk for another +20 feet from Unarmored Movement. 2 Bladesinger gives +10 feet while Bladesinging. 2 Fighter doesn't allow any extra movement, but grants Action Surge. This leaves you with 1 level of your choice. In addition, the Monk subclass is up to you. So far we’re at 70 feet walking speed. This is fast for your average end-level monk, but we’ve yet to mainline the real speed. And before we get any further, you will actually need friends for this. You might lose them with these shenanigans, but the classes they’ll need are: Transmutation Wizard 17/Alchemist Artificer 3; they will need a Boon of Spell Recall and the Metamagic Adept Feat with Extended Spell. Oath of Glory Paladin 7/Creation Bard 6/Graviurgist Wizard 2. The rest of their levels are up to you.
Other Speed Bonuses:
Let’s get the weird thing out of the gate. Your Transmuter should have Shapechange prepared, but not as a scroll as you won’t be the one casting it. Instead, the Transmuter is going to cast Glyph of Warding at 9th level, casting an Extended Shapechange by using their aforementioned Boon of Spell Recall and Metamagic Adept to circumvent the need for two 9th level spell slots. You then activate this glyph to become a Quickling. This replaces your 30 base speed with 120 feet, so it evens out to a +90. In addition, you do not have to concentrate on this spell thanks to Glyph of Warding, which means... ...You can maintain Shapechange while Raging for +15 feet under Elk Totem. Attune to the Book of Exalted Deeds. This artifact can have 2 Major Beneficial Properties from the random properties list in the DMG, [41-50] is a +10 to walk speed. This means rolling the same bonus twice will grant you +20 feet. The same goes for The Infernal Machine of Lum the Mad; except it has 5 random effects. Rolling a [48] five times can grant up to a +50 to walking speed. This same effect doubles your lung capacity each time, which means you can hold your breath 32x as long. Grab the Mobile feat for +10. Be gifted a Transmuter Stone with the speed buff from your Transmuter for +10. Epic Boon of Speed grants another +30 feet. Voluntarily have a Sibriex Warp you using the Flesh Warping variant rule. Since Shapechange was cast with the Extended Metamagic, this means it will still be active when the Warping finishes with slightly under an hour left. A result of [56-60] on the Flesh Warping table grants a +10 to walk speed. Cast or have Longstrider cast on you for +10. The Paladin should use their Graviurgist multiclass’ Adjust Density on you, for yet another +10 Have your Transmuter use their Alchemist Experimental Elixir feature to give you a Swiftness Elixir for +10 feet. Start your turn within range of the Paladin’s Aura Of Alacrity for another +10. Also start your turn within 10ft of a Dancing Item created by the Paladin's Animating Performance for +10 feet. 70 + 285 = 355 feet of walk speed. But this is all simple addition, even 1st graders are learning their multiplication.
Multipliers:
Use your last attunement for Boots of Speed: x2 Have Haste cast on you by your friendly Transmuter, or drink a Potion of Speed: x2 Shapechange allows use of your features if you have the proper anatomy, so Feline Agility is fair game: x2 Multipliers stack, so 2 x 2 x 2 grants you a x8. 355 x 8 is 2,840 feet per movement.
Now the actions, lets count them out:
Have your Paladin use their Bard multiclass to use a readied Dissonant Whispers set to trigger once you start to move (remaining in range for the spell to target you) using Feline Agility: Reaction Move x1 Base movement x2 Action Dash x3 Hasted Dash x4 Action Surge Dash x5 Step of the Wind Dash x6 2,840 x 6 is a total of 17,040 feet in a round.
But did you think we were done yet?
Finally, there's an item in The Hidden Shrine of Tamoachan (in Tales From the Yawning Portal) called the Eagle Whistle. When you blow it continually, you can fly at a rate of twice your movement speed. There’s no stated action to blow the whistle, only a limit of how long you can use it continuously.
This gives us a final total of 17,040 x 2 for 34,080 feet in one turn. Flying. This is analogous to Mach 5.05.
• • •
Afterword:
Why, why would I do this? Well, mostly because I could, and because nobody stopped me the last few times I shared older builds. Also, it’s because I’ve seen a good number of builds recently that try to take the crown of ‘fastest 5e build’, and each time I’m disappointed to find some misinterpretation of a feature, or using a UA that’s no longer in the playtesting phase and is now unsupported (coughMysticcough). I also have a low opinion of the Peasant Railgun, since that’s reliant on the readied actions of other characters and not your own movement speed. I do take some delight in having what I believe is the current fastest build in 5e, but I fully expect to have someone beat me to the punch when the next speed boost is codified. At least I can hope that they’ll be basing the build off of this. Fun fact, this speed after the first update now surpasses 330 feet base walk speed. With multipliers, this means you are literally moving more than a mile a second. ...Figuratively? You’re not your character, so you’re not the one moving but you’re taking their persona as their creator so you... oh no i’ve gone crosseyed
CHANGELOG
2/11/21.4 • Made the Sibriex Warping more reliable. • Touched up the order of events in which you should have your effects granted by effect duration. With the exception of the Shapechange shenanigans, it now goes from Permanent, to Hour, to Minute, to Round. • Gave Transmuter Metamagic Adept. 2/11/21.3: • Changed Paladin ally's Glamour Bard 3 for Creation Bard 6. • Broke Mach 5. • Credit for the above goes to u/Simple_Ferret4383 2/11/21.2: • Reverted Mantle of Inspiration to Dissonant Whispers. RAW can't ready a Bonus Action. 2/11/21.1: • Inverted decision on Elk Totem 3. • Added Glyph of Warding and Elk Rage bullshit. It’s a whole paragraph. • Removed College of Spirits UA mention in Afterword. • Gave the Paladin Graviurgist levels, also granted Bard subclass. • Replaced readied Dissonant Whispers’ reaction with the one from Mantle of Inspiration. • Added Sibriex warping. Nasty stuff. • Thanks to u/ChazPls, u/SethTheFrank, u/ALemmingInSpace, and u/Semako for the input listed above!
[1.1 Update] Complete List of Verified Perks (Working / Not Working / Partially Working) [WIP]
Update: All items and perks testing completed. Still updating based on feedback as it comes in. I'll update the text below soon. Update: Added a tab for bonuses per skill level and attribute level Update: Tested the non functioning (Partially or Not Working) perks/items for the 1.11 hotfix. Several changes noted in the change log. I think I'll reserve testing the whole list for more significant updates, but definitely looking out for people posting/messaging about things they found that are not working/working. Already got 1 perk not working that was before.
Up to date Perks and Items and Skill Levels Testing can be found here: Link to Spreadsheet
Hope you guys find this helpful! Reddit list last updated: 1/26/2021
Body - Athletics
Regeneration: "Health slowly regenerates during combat."
Working
With this perk alone, regen starts only below 60% and heals up to 60%.
Invincible: "Increases max health by 10%."
Working
Only applies to base HP. 10% of base HP at lvl 50 = 43 HP.
Pack Mule: "Increases carrying capacity by 60."
Working
Divided Attention: "Allows you to reload weapons while sprinting, sliding, and vaulting."
Working
Epimorphosis: "Health regenerates up to 70% of max Health outside of combat."
Working
True Grit: "Increases max stamina by 10%."
Working
Only applies to base stamina. 10% of base stamina at lvl 50 = 15 stamina.
Soft on your feet: "Reduces fall damage by 5%."
Working
Gladiator: "Reduces the amount of Stamina consumed when blocking melee attacks by 20%."
Not Working
Steel and Chrome: "Increases melee damage by 10%."
Working
Multitasker: "Allows you to shoot while sprinting, sliding, and vaulting."
Working
Aiming while vaulting doesn't use any sights, but works for firing.
Like a Butterfly: "Dodging does not drain Stamina."
Working
Stronger Together: "Increases damage you deal while carrying a body."
Working
Still requires Trasporter perk to fire shots, and the increase is about 2x
Cardio Cure: "Health regenerates 25% faster as you move."
Overworking
Regeneration bonus active at all times. Also confirmed moving/still is the same
Transporter: "Allows you to shoot with Pistols and Revolvers or sprint while carrying a body."
Working
Human Shield: "Increases armor by 20% when grappling an enemy."
Working
Marathoner: "Sprinting does not drain Stamina."
Working
Dog of War: "Increases Health regen in combat by 15%"
Working
Note: Saving all health regen tests for last. They're the most annoying
Wolverine: "Health regen activates 50% faster during combat."
Working
90% faster activation might not be right, but it's definitely faster. Hard to tell when this counter officially starts when in combat.
Steel Shell: "Increases armor by 10%."
Working
The Rock: "Enemies cannot knock you down."
Working
Tested using cars again. You really have to be just on the edge to avoid death.
Indestructible: "Reduces all damage by 10%."
Working
Hard Motherfucker: "When entering combat, Armor and Resistances increase by 10% for 10 sec. +1% per level."
Not Working
This perk only works the first save instance where you learn it. Reloading the save will disable the perk no matter how many points you put into it.
Body - Annihilation
Speed Demon: "You deal more damage the faster you're moving."
Working
Only applies to Shotguns and LMGs. Walking was around 1.5x, Running 2x, Speed glitches 4x+
Manic: "When entering combat, your movement speed increases by 20% for 10 sec."
Working
Only applies to Shotguns and LMGs.
Burn Baby Burn: "Doubles the duration of Burn"
Working
Works for Quickhacks (Overheat) and burn applied with other weapons than SG/LMG
Mongoose: "Increases Evasion by 25% while reloading."
Not Working
All evasion related stats not working.
Momentum Shift: "Defeating an enemy increases movement speed by 10% for 10 sec."
Working
Can only see difference on SG/LMG kills.
Massacre: "Increases Crit Damage with Shotguns and Light Machine Guns by 15%"
Working
Pump it, Louder!: "Reduces recoil of Shotguns and Light Machine Guns by 10%."
Not Working
Tested only using LMGs and the recoil pattern on fully automatic firing.
Hail of Bullets: "Shotguns and Light Machine Guns deal 3% more damage."
Working
Damage increase doesn't show on weapon, but shows in final damage numbers on enemies
In Your Face: "Reduces reload time of Shotguns and Light Machine Guns by 20%."
Working
Bloodbath: "Dismembering enemies reduces weapon recoil by 50% for 6 sec."
Not Working
May not be tested properly. I can only dismember consistently with a SG, and switched to LMG to see recoil. That could mess with the buff, not sure.
Bulldozer: "Increases Crit Chance with Shotguns and Light Machine Guns by 10%."
Working
Bloodrush: "Increases movement speed in combat by 5% while carrying a Shotgun or Light Machine Gun."
Working
Dead Center: "Increases damage to torsos by 10%."
Working
Only applies to Shotguns and LMGs
Heavy Lead: "Shotguns and Light Machine Guns knock back enemies with more force."
Partially Working
Retested in 1.1.. I'm actually not sure anymore. Hard to eyeball distance so marking as partially
Skeet Shooter: "Deal 15% more damage to moving targets."
Working
Only applies to Shotguns and LMGs
Unstoppable: "Dismembering an enemy increases fire rate by 10% for 8 sec. Stacks up to 3 times."
Working
Only applies to Shotguns and LMGs
Biathlete: "Weapon spread does not increase while moving."
Not Working
Several opinions saying spread does not change, with or without the perk.
Poppin' Off: "Shotguns have 25% higher chance of dismembering enemies."
Not Working
Used a carnage again, but I do have trouble dismembering consistently. The smart shotgun shreds too much to use for comparison, so if anyone has any ideas please message me on reddit with them.
Hit The Deck: "Increases damage to staggered and knocked-down enemies by 10%."
Not Working
Only tested on Knocked Down enemies. Staggering with Carnage barely leaves any time to fire again
Body - Street Brawler
Thrash: "Strong Attacks with Blunt Weapons reduce the target's Armor by 30% for 10 sec."
Working
Enemies don't have armor. What this does very accurately though is increase damage against these enmies by 30%
Frenzy: "Defeating an enemy increases damage with Blunt Weapons by 100% for 10 sec."
Working
Biding Time: "Blocking attacks with a Blunt Weapon restores 5% Health."
Working
Countering does not count as a block in this case.
Human Fortress: "Reduces the Stamina cost of blocking attacks by 50% while using a Blunt Weapon."
Working
Stun duration is short and can be seen with a teal icon above their head and a timer ticking down.
Opportune Strike: "Increases damage with Blunt Weapons against enemies affected by Stun by 50%."
Working
Payback: "Increases damage with Blunt Weapons by 1% for every 1% of missing Health"
Working
Working, but I don't know how low you can take this. It worked while I was around 40-50% HP
Juggernaut: "Increases Armor by 15% while blocking with a Blunt Weapon."
Not Working
Flurry: "Increases damage from combo attacks with Blunt Weapons by 30%."
Working
Crushing Blows: "Increases damage from Strong Attacks with Blunt Weapons by 30%."
Working
Rush: "Successful attacks with Blunt Weapons regenerate 3% Health over 2 Sec."
Working
Dazed: "All attacks with Blunt Weapons have a 15% chance to Stun."
Working
Efficient Blows: "Reduces the Stamina cost of all attacks with Blunt Weapons by 25%."
Working
Guerrilla: "Increases Crit Damage for 10 sec. after entering combat. +2% per level."
Not Working
This perk only works the first save instance where you learn it. Reloading the save will disable the perk no matter how many points you put into it.
Relentless: "Successful attacks with Blunt Weapons against enemies affected by Stun restore 20% Stamina."
Working
Reinvigorate: "Defeating an enemy by performing a Strong Attack with a Blunt Weapon restores 10% Stamina."
Not Working
Breathing Space: "Increases Stamina regen while blocking with Blunt Weapons by 50%"
Working
Unshakeable: "Successful attacks with Blunt Weapons against enemies affected by Stun restore 5% Health and 5% Stamina."
Working
Reflexes - Assault
Bulletjock: "Increases damage with rifles by 3%."
Working
Eagle Eye: "Reduces time to aim down sight with Rifles and Submachine Guns by 10%."
Working
Covering Killshot: "Increases Crit Chance with Rifles by 10% when firing from behind cover."
Working
Note: Behind cover without aiming down sights does not count. I had to aim for the crit chance to work.
Too Close For Comfort: "Quick melee attacks with Rifles deal 50% more damage."
Working
Bullseye: "Increases Rifle and Sumachine Gun damage while aiming by 10%"
Working
Executioner: "Deal 25% more damage with Rifles and Submachine Guns to enemies whose Health is above 50%."
Working
Duck Hunter: "Increases Rifle and Submachine Gun damage to moving enemies by 10%"
Working
Shoot, Reload, Repeat: "Defeating an enemy with a Rifle or Submachine Gun reduces reload time by 20% for 5 seconds."
Working
Nerves of Steel: "Increases headshot damage with Sniper Rifles and Rrecision Rifles by 20%."
Working
Tested again as working. Sniper rifles have high multipliers by default so it's hard to tell. Used the precision rifle and it was more noticeable
Feel the Flow: "Reduces reload time for Assault Rifles and Submachine Guns by 10%."
Working
Trench Warfare: "Increases Rifle and Submachine Gun damage by 5% when firing from behind cover."
Working
Hunter's Hands: "Reduces recoil with Rifles and Submachine Guns by 20% when firing from behind cover."
Partially Working
Tested with Copperhead. Vertical recoil is lower, but not by much... definitely not 40% at level 2
Named Bullets: "Increases Crit Damage with Rifles and Submachine Guns by 35%."
Working
Skull Skipper: "Each headshot reduces recoil with Rifles and Submachine Guns by 5% for 10 sec. Stacks up to 5 times."
Working
Retested and it seems to work.
Bunker: "Increases Armor and Resistances by 15% when shooting with Rifles and Submachine Guns from behind cover."
Not Working
Recoil Wrangler: "Reduces recoil with Rifles and Submachine Guns by 10%."
Not Working
In Perspective: "Bullets fired from Rifles and Submachine Guns ricochet an additional 2 time(s)."
Working
Long Shot: "Rifle and Submachine Gun damage increases the farther you are located from enemies."
Working
23.6 distance for 100% additional weapon damage. Distance can be measured with the Grandstead scope. It's shown on the top right corner of the rectangle in the sight
Savage Stoic: "Increases damage with Rifles and Submachine Guns by 35% when standing still."
Working
Punisher: "After defeating an enemy with a Rifle or Submachine Gun, weapon sway is nullified and weapon spread does not increase for 10 sec. +0.2 sec. per Perk level."
Not Working
Reflexes - Handguns
Gunslinger: "Reduces reload time for Pistols and Revolvers by 10%."
Working
High Noon: "Increases Crit Chance with Pistols and Revolvers by 4%."
Working
Rio Bravo: "Increases headshot damage multiplier with Pistols and Revolvers by 10%."
Working
Desperado: "Increases damage with Pistols and Revolvers by 3%."
Working
On the Fly: "Reduces draw/holster time for Pistols and Revolvers by 25%."
Working
Long Shot Drop Pop: "Increases damage with Pistols and Revolvers to enemies 5+ meters away by 15%."
Working
O.K. Corral: "Deal 50% more damage with Pistols and Revolvers to enemies whose Health is below 25%."
Working
Steady Hand: "Reduces Pistol and Revolver recoil by 30%."
Working
Previously not working. Used a Lexington and the recoil firing the whole clip did look lower.
Vanishing Point: "Evasion increases by 25% for 6 sec. after performing a dodge with a Pistol or Revolver equipped."
Not Working
From Head to Toe: "Increases damage to limbs with Pistols and Revolvers by 7%."
Working
A Fistful of Eurodollars: "Increases Crit Damage with Pistols and Revolvers by 10%."
Working
Acrobat: "You can now perform dodges while aiming a Pistol or Revolver."
Working
Fixed. Note that most people are probably wearing Kerenzikov, which actually enables this anyways
Grand Finale: "The last round in a Pistol or Revolver clip deals double damage."
Working
Attritional Fire: "Firing consecutive shots with a Pistol or Revolver at the same target increases damage by 10%."
Not Working
Previously working, but I can't remember how solid the test in the past was on this one.
Wild West: "Removes the damage penalty from Pistols and Revolvers when shooting from a distance."
Working
Westworld: "Increases Crit Chance for Pistols and Revolvers by 10% if fully modded."
Working
Fully modded means every slot is filled, regardless of rarity or number of slots
Snowball Effect: "After defeating an enemy, fire rate for Pistols and Revolvers increases by 5% for 6 sec. Stacks up to 5 times."
Not Working
Tested again with Lexington, can't see any difference at max stacks
Lead Sponge: "Enables you to shoot with Pistols and Revolvers while dodging."
Working
You can already do this with Kerenzikov
Brainpower: "After a successful headshot with a Pistol or Revolver, Crit Chance increases by 25% for 5 sec."
Working
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly: "After a successful Crit Hit with a Pistol or Revolver, damage and Armor increase by 30% for 5 seconds. +1% per Perk level."
Not Working
This perk only works the first save instance where you learn it. Reloading the save will disable the perk no matter how many points you put into it.
Reflexes - Blades
Sting Like a Bee: "Increases attack speed with Blades by 10%."
Working
Only works if weapon is not at attack speed cap. See appendix for more info.
Roaring Waters: "Strong Attacks with Blades deal 30% more damage."
Working
Crimson Dance: "Combos with Blades have a 15% chance to apply Bleeding."
Working
Slow and Steady: "Armor is increased by 15% while moving."
Working
Only applies when holding a blade. Also do not have to be moving.
Flight of the Sparrow: "Reduces the Stamina cost of all attack with Blades by 30%"
Working
Offensive Defense: "Defensive Attacks with Blades deal 200% more damage."
Working
Shifting Sands: "Dodging recovers 15% Stamina."
Partially Working
Hidden cooldown applied for stamina recovery. Dodging continuously, 1 in 3 recovered stamina.
Stuck Pig: "Increases Bleeding duration by 3 sec."
Working
Only extends Bleeds applied by Blades
Blessed Blade: "Increases Crit Chance with Blades by 20%."
Working
Unbroken Spirit: "Successful Counterattacks with Blades restore 25% Health and Stamina."
Working
Previously didn't work for me. Retested, working now
Bloodlust: "While wielding a Blade, recovers 7% Health when applying Bleeding to an enemy or hitting an enemy affected by Bleeding."
Partially Working
Only healed on first hit on a bleeding enemy. All other cases did not heal.
Float Like a Butterfly: "Dodging increases damage with Blades by 35% for 5 sec."
Working
Judge, Jury, and Executioner: "Increases damage with Blades by 50% against enemies with max Health."
Working
Fiery Blast: "Increases damage with Blades by 1% for every 1% of Health the enemy is missing."
Working
Not 100% sure, but it felt like there was a cap in bonus damage. My damage went up to double.
Crimson Tide: "Bleeding applied with Blades can stack 3 times."
Working
Stacking = applied at the same time, not extending the time.
Deathbolt: "While wielding a Blade, defeating an enemy restores 20% Health and increases movement speed by 30% for 5 sec."
Working
Dragon Strike: "Increases Crit Damage with Blades by 25%. +1% per Perk level."
Not Working
This perk only works the first save instance where you learn it. Reloading the save will disable the perk no matter how many points you put into it.
Intelligence - Breach Protocol
Big Sleep: "Unlocks the Big Sleep daemon, which disables all cameras in the network for 3 min."
Working
Mass Vulnerability: "Unlocks the Mass Vulnerability daemon, which reduces the Physical Resistance for all enemies in the network by 30% for 3 min."
Working
Retested for 1.1 and it is 100% working. Physical resistance doens't appear to show in the "Weaknesses" section when you scan enemies
Almost In!: "Increases the breach time for Breach Protocol by 20%."
Working
Advanced Datamine: "Upgrades the Datamine daemon, increasing the amount of eurodollars acquired from Access Points by 50%."
Working
Mass Vulnerability: Resistances: "Upgrades the Mass Vulnerability daemon, reducing all Resistances for enemies in the network by 30%."
Working
Note that this Daemon isn't an option without Mass Vulnerability.
Datamine Mastermind: "Upgrades the Datamine daemon, increasing the amount of components acquired from Access Points by 50%."
Working
The amount gained is different. Some more than 100%, and no extra legendary components
Turret Shutdown: "Unlocks the Turret Shutdown daemon, which disables security turrets in the network for 3 min."
Working
Total Recall: "The ICEpick daemon reduces all quickhack costs by an additional 1 RAM unit(s)."
Working
Turret Tamer: "Unlocks the Turret Tamer daemon, which sets the status of every turret in the network to friendly for 3 min."
Working
Datamine Virtuoso: "Upgrades the Datamine daemon, increasing the chance to acquire a quickhack from Access Points by 50%."
Working
Not really easy to test, but over time with this maxed I was almost always getting an upgraded quickhack from access points
Cloud Cache: "Completing a Breach Protocol reduces the RAM cost of your next quickhack by 1 time(s) the number of daemons uploaded."
Working
Efficiency: "Uploading 3 or more daemons in the same Breach Protocol increases cyberdeck RAM recovery rate by 3 unit(s) per 60 sec. Lasts 5 min."
Working
Mass Vulnerability: Quickhacks: "Upgrades the Mass Vulnerability daemon, causing enemies in the network to also take 30% more damage from quickhacks."
Working
Totaler Recall: "The ICEpick daemon reduces all quickhack costs by an additional 1 RAM unit(s)."
Working
Head Start: "Automatically uploads the first daemon in the list at the start of Breach Protocol."
Working
Hackathon: "Uploading 3 or more daemons in the same Breach Protocol shortens quickhack cooldowns by 33% for 5 min."
Working
Buffer Optimization: "Increases the duration of daemon effects by 100%."
Working
Compression: "Reduces the lengths of the sequences required to upload daemons by 1. Cannot be reduced below 2."
Working
Transmigration: "Increases the breach time of Breach Protocol by 50%. +5% per Perk level."
Not working
Intelligence - Quickhacking
Bloodware: "Quickhacks deal 10% more damage."
Working
Damage increase seems lower than described. Suspected lower base damage not visible to players for Quickhacks
Biosynergy: "Allows RAM to recover during combat. Recover 4 RAM unit(s) every 60 sec."
Working
Forget-me-not: "Eliminating a target affected by a quickhack instantly recovers 1 RAM unit(s)."
Working
Hacker's Manual: "Unlocks Crafting Specs for Uncommon quickhacks."
Working
I Spy: "Reveals an enemy netrunner when they're attempting to hack you."
Working
Weak Link: "Reduces the required cyberdeck RAM for quickhacks used on devices by 1 unit(s)."
Working
Can't go below 1 RAM Cost
Daisy Chain: "Eliminating a target affected by a quickhack reduces the existing cooldowns for all other active quickhacks by 10%."
Overworking
Still reduces CD to and not by the described percent
Signal Support: "Increases quickhack duration by 25%."
Working
Don't see a description change of duration on Ultimate quickhacks
Subliminal Message: "Quickhacks deal 50% more damage to unaware targets."
Working
50% and 100% at level 2 are not applied on the final damage number, it's applied on a smaller base damage.
Diffusion: "Quickhack spread distance is increased by 2 times."
Working
Can only confirm the distance is increased, but not that it's actually 2x
Mnemonic: "Reduces the cost of quickhacks used against an enemy already affected by a quickhack by 2 RAM units."
Working
School of Hard Hacks: "Unlocks Crafting Specs for Rare quickhacks."
Working
Plague: "Quickhacks that spread can jump to 1 additional targets."
Working
Hacker Overlord: "Unlocks Crafting Specs for Epic quickhacks."
Working
Critical Error: "Quickhacks can now deal Crit Hits based on your Crit Chance and Crit Damage stats."
Working
Anamnesis: "Available cyberdeck RAM cannot drop below 2 unit(s)."
Partially Working
This works in a very different way than described. The description should read "Resets your RAM to 2/3/4 when you reach 0 RAM and have not initiated ANY recovery of RAM at all." The last part meaning you have to actually 0 out and if any recovery happens along the way, it does not work. Recovery can be stalled with opening your menu or spamming lower level quickhacks with low cost, or doing what I did: Found a perfect combination of quickhack costs to execute on a group of enemies to 0 out immediately.
Bartmoss' Legacy: "Unlocks Crafting Specs for Legendary quickhacks."
Working
Optimization: "Reduces the cost of quickhacks by 1 RAM unit(s)."
Working
Master RAM Liberator: "Increase RAM recovery rate by 50%."
Partially Working
The 50% bonus is actually not working, but the 1% per level is working (I tested with 50 points into the perk which is what made it look like it was working)
Technical Abilities - Crafting
Mechanic: "Gain more components when disassembling."
Working
Scrapper: "Junk items are automatically disassembled."
Working
True Craftsman: "Allows you to craft Rare items."
Working
Workshop: "Disassembling items grants a 5% chance to gain a free component of the same quality as the disassembled item."
Working
Innovation: "Consumables are 25% more effective."
Working
Accurate translation: Consumables that provide timed buffs last 25% longer.
Sapper: "Grenades deal 10% more damage."
Not Working
Not retesting this. I've done this so many times and even if it does work the damage range on grenades is too wide to tell
200% Efficiency: "Crafted clothes gain 2.5% more armor."
Not Working
Still not working. Tested on hats that have consistent armor
Field Technician: "Crafted weapons deals 2.5% more damage."
Partially Working
Still not working on Melee wapons. The increase in damage I saw on Katana was more like 1% at max perk leve
Grease Monkey: "Allows you to craft Epic items."
Working
Efficient Upgrades: "Grants a 10% chance to upgrade an item for free."
Working
Ex Nihilo: "Grants a 20% chance to craft an item for free."
Working
Let there be light!: "Reduces the component cost of upgrading items by 10%"
Working
Cost Optimization: "Reduces the component cost of crafting items by 15%"
Working
Tune-up: "Allows you to upgrade lower quality components into higher quality ones."
Working
Waste not want not: "When disassembling an item, you get attached mods back."
Working
Edgerunner Artisan: "Allows you to craft Legendary items."
Working
Crazy Science: "Increases the sale price of crafted items by 10%. +1% per Perk level."
Partially Working
Only works until you reload your save, in which case it stops working.
Cutting Edge: "Improves damages and all damage-related stats of crafted weapons by 5%."
Partially Working
Still not working on Melee. Keep in mind for Ranged, a 5% increase in all the stats is actually a lot more than 5% increase in overall DPS in the end
Technical Abilities - Engineering
Blast Shielding: "Reduces damage taken from explosions by 10%."
Working
But even with the highest HP value possible, it is still impossible to survive an explosion. Tested with mods.
Mech Looter: "When looting drones, mechs and robots, there is a 25% chance of looting a weapon mod or attachment."
Not Working
Can't touch this: "Grants immunity to all effects from your own grenades."
Partially Working
NOTE: This works for every grenade type EXCEPT Flashbangs. So it's mostly working.
Grenadier: "The explosion radius of grenades is visible."
Working
Shrapnel: "All grenade types deal 20 damage in addition to their normal types."
Not Working
Tested and don't see any difference
Up to 11: "Allows you to charge Tech weapons up to 75% capacity."
Working
Note that Tech weapons do NOT charge to 100% by default. They charge up to 50%, which is relevant to other perks in the tree that mention full charge.
Lock and load: "Increases Smart weapons reload speed by 5%."
Working
Bladerunner: "Increase damage to drones, mech and robots by 20%."
Working
Bigger Booms: "Grenades deal 5% more damage."
Not Working
Can't see a difference. Like I noted above, the damage range is too wide to tell any difference
Lighting Bolt: "Increases Crit Chance with Tech weapons by 3%."
Working
Tesla: "Increase the charge multiplier for Tech weapons by 15%."
Working
Gun Whisperer: "Fully charged Tech weapons do not shoot automatically."
Working
Does not work for the DR12 Quasar and Kenshin Pistols
Ubercharge: "Fully charged Tech weapons deal 50% more damage."
Working
Needs "Up To 11" Perk to work. Tested originally with the Kenshin pistol and it did not work. Quasar worked, so please message me if you see that it doesn't work for certain tech guns.
Insulation: "Grants immunity to shock."
Working
Shock = electric damage. Electricity on ground = electric. Enemy attacks applying shock = electric. Enemy grenades = EMP (so not electric damage), meaning this will not prevent damage from grenades. I don't know what other sources of EMP there are, but this is consistent with the clothing mod as well.
Fuck all walls: "Reduces the charge amount needed for Tech weapons to penetrate walls by 30%."
Working
This is really hard to tell. Never had much issue having tech guns pierce walls, and the charge is pretty fast so I could be wrong.
Play the angles: "Ricochets deal an additional 50% damage."
Not Working
Lickety Split: "Tech weapons charge time is reduced by 10%."
Working
Superconductor: "Tech weapons ignore Armor."
Not Working
Revamp: "Increases damage Tech weapons by 25%, increases charges damage from all chargeable weapons and cyberware by 10%. +1% charge damage per Perk level."
Not Working
Only works after the first time learning the perk. Reloading save disables the perk.
Jackpot: "Enables grenades to deal Crit Hits."
Working
Cool - Stealth
Silent And Deadly: "Increases damage dealt by silenced weapons by 25% while sneaking."
Working
Crouching Tiger: "Increases movement speed while sneaking by 20%."
Working
Hidden Dragon: "Allows you to perform lethal or non-lethal aerial takedowns on unaware targets."
Working
Dagger Dealer: "Allows you to throw knives. Hold L2 to aim and press R2 to throw."
Working
Still doesn't return the knife, but you can definitely throw them lol
Leg Up: "Movement speed after a successful takedown is increased by 30% for 10 sec."
Working
Strike From The Shadows: "Increases your Crit Chance by 15% while sneaking."
Working
Assassin: "Deal 15% more damage to human enemies."
Working
Sniper: "Increases damage from headshots fired from outside combat by 30%."
Working
Cutthroat: "Thrown knives deal 30% more damage."
Working
Aggressive Antitoxins: "Grants immunity to Poison."
Working
Clean Work: "You can pick up an enemy's body immediately after performing a takedown by holding R3."
Working
Stunning Blows: "Quick Melee Attacks with ranged weapons stagger enemies, giving you an opportunity to grapple them."
Working
From The Shadows: "Upon entering combat, Crit Chance increases by 25% for 7 sec."
Working
Ghost: "Detection time is increased by 20%."
Working
Commando: "You cannot be detected under water."
No One Cares
Pretty sure in 1.1 this still holds true
Venomous Fangs: "All knives apply Poison."
Working
Rattlesnake: "Enemies affected by Poison are slowed."
Not Working
In combat they still move the same.
Silent Finisher: "Enemies with less than 15% Health are defeated instantly when attacked with a Knife. Does not work on enemies with a Very High threat level."
Working
Hasty Retreat: "Temporarily boosts movement speed by 50% for 5 sec. when detected by an enemy."
Working
Restorative Shadows: "While in stealth, increases Health regen by 25%."
Working
Neurotoxin: "Damage from Poison is doubled."
Working
Does not work with Contagion, but worked with all other sources of poison
Hasten The Inevitable: "Deal 20% more damage to enemies affected by Poison."
Overworking
Still works on every weapon with or without poison.
Cheat Death: "When your Health drops below 50%, reduce all incoming damage by 50% for 10 sec. Cannot occur more than once per minute."
Working
Ninjutsu: "Crouch Attacks from stealth with melee weapons deal 100% more damage."
Not Working
Only worked specifically with Baseball bats. Nothing else.
Toxicology: "Increases the duration of Poison applied to enemies by 5 seconds. +0.2 sec. per Perk level."
Not Working
This perk doesn't work even before reloading the save.
Cool - Cold Blood
Cold Blood: "After defeating an enemy, gain Cold Blood for 10 sec. and increase movement speed by 2%. Stacks up to 1 time."
Working
Will to Survive: "Increases all Resistances by 2.5% per stack of Cold Blood."
Working
Icy Veins: "Reduces weapon recoil by 2.5% per stack of Cold Blood."
Not Working
Retested using a Copperhead assault rifle. 5 stacks recoil pattern looked the same as no stacks
Frosty Synapses: "Reduces quickhack cooldowns by 3% per stack of Cold Blood."
Working
Previously not working, working now. Tested with Suicide
Critical Condition: "Increases duration of Cold Blood by 5 sec."
Working
Rapid Bloodflow: "Increase Health regen inside and outside combat by 50% per stack of Cold Blood."
Working
Defensive Clotting: "Increases Armor by 10% per stack of Cold Blood."
Working
Coldest Blood: "Increases max stack amount for Cold Blood by 1."
Working
Frozen Precision: "Increases headshot damage by 50%."
Working
Hard to tell even with a low headshot multiplier weapon. Shows on the weapon, with or without cold blood stacks.
Blood Brawl: "While Cold Blood is active, increases damage with melee weapons by 5%."
Working
Easy to mistake as this being a stacking perk. It's only a flat 10% increase with Cold Blood active, regardless of stacks
Predator: "Increases attack speed by 10% per stack of Cold Blood."
Working
Works up to your melee weapon's attack speed cap. See Appendix for details.
Quick Transfer: "Reduces quickhack upload time by 1% per stack of Cold Blood."
Working
Cold and Calculating: "Landing a Crit Hit has 25% chance of applying a stack of Cold Blood."
Working
Bloodswell: "When your Health reaches 45%, a max stack of Cold Blood is automatically activated."
Working
Does apply max stacks, but reminder that without Coolagulant all stacks will remove at once.
Coolagulant: "Stacks of Cold Blood are removed one by one, not all at once."
Working
Unbreakable: "Increases max stack amount for Cold Blood by 1."
Working
Pain Is An Illusion: "While Cold Blood is active, reduces damage taken by 5%."
Working
Immunity: "While Cold Blood is active, you are immune to Bleeding, Poison, Burn and Shock."
Working
NOTE: I don't see this working with Shock. If anyone can confirm please let me know
Merciless: "While Cold Blood is active, increases Crit Chance by 10% and Crit Damage by 25%. +1% Crit Chance and +3% Crit Damage per Perk level."
Not Working
This perk only works the first save instance where you learn it. Reloading the save will disable the perk no matter how many points you put into it.
https://steam.cryotank.net/wp-content/gallery/slaythespire/Slay-the-Spire-01-HD.png Slay the Spire (StS) has finally arrived to Android! For two years many of us dreamed for this legendary game to be accessible on their mobile devices, and finally the day has come. No need to talk about how awesome this game is, how it basically started a new genre of card-based dungeon crawlers (UPD: or roguelike deck-builders, if you prefer the term), and even about how well or poor it works on Android hardware in its current state (there will be lots of these posts during the days to come). What I wanted to talk about is the impact this game had on (specifically) mobile industry and how other developers were able to utilize this innovative formula in their own products. Personally, I am somewhat glad that StS release was delayed that much. This allowed a lot of "clones" to be spawned, many of which I enjoyed playing. Some of them appear to be straight rip-offs, but others introduced many fresh ideas of their own, some even surpassing the predecessor's greatness. What the heck am I talking about and how is this even possible will be revealed to you, should you decide to stay on a bit and read through the article below.
General info
First and foremost, let's clarify the important thing: card based dungeon crawlers are not Collectible Card Games (CCGs). Even though they share the same ideas, and some of them (StS included) even have a feature to permanently improve starting cards, or a mode to play with pre-constructed decks, this is not the case for the genre in general. There is no place for multiplayer and PvP battles here: a turn-down for the most, but an undeniable advantage for the rest - only though-out puzzle-like single-player experience which we can pause at any moment and continue when the time is appropriate. Thus, there will never be troubles with downtime, matchmaking, ratings, overpowered builds and other PvP stuff, as there will never be a satisfaction of crushing your opponents with the power of your mighty intellect... The fun of discovering interesting synergies between various card combinations is still present, though. With this being said, let's quickly look through the core features of the genre, which will be relevant for almost every game we review below: - we must explore a dungeon, which (usually, but not necessarily) consists of three floors with increasing difficulty; - we have limited control over the order in which to face the challenges; - there is a powerful boss in the end of each floor; - we battle using deck of cards, usually drawing new cards from deck to hand each turn; - there is a limitation on how many cards we can play during our turn; - we start with a weak basic deck, but get new cards as rewards for fighting enemies; - there is a possibility to permanently remove (weak) cards from the deck; - successful gameplay strategies revolve around utilizing the synergies between different cards; - there are several character classes, each with their own cards and tactics; - there are often additional items to acquire in the dungeon, providing bonuses and emphasizing specific types of play; Before Slay the Spire (StS) came out, there was another card-based dungeon crawler called Dream Quest (DQ), which considered by many to be the first game of the genre (at least the first one to make a significant impact). Not sure if the former drew inspiration from the latter, but certain parallels can easily be drawn: in fact, all of the features mentioned in the list above are valid for DQ the same way as it is for StS. The rich plethora of card based dungeon crawlers (both PC/Console and mobile) originated from some combination of the two. StS, however, can not be considered a clone of DQ, as it introduced a lot of original ideas and spawned its own line of descendants. It is always interesting to analyze each new title to see which of two games was the biggest inspiration, and to group them accordingly. For me the main criteria lies in the core difference in battle system: - in StS, enemies (usually multiple) show their intentions at the beginning of each turn, so we know what to expect and what to play against; - in DQ, the enemy (usually single) draws and plays cards the same way as we do, often using the same abilities and synergies we ourselves can use. Introductions aside, let's finally get to the interesting part - the games! (Note: Games are listed in alphabetical order to not give any privileges to one over another. For my personal preferences see the comment section).
Dream Quest clones
Call of Lophis takes us on a grim journey through infested lands full of deadly monsters, dangerous traps, and one of the most ridiculous card art I have ever seen. It's surprising to see how dark fantasy elements combine with the humor and gags this game presents. From the gameplay point of view, there is enough card variety and interesting synergies, but it will take a long time to reach the interesting parts. Really: this game just does not know when to end, forcing new and new dungeon locations onto us with basically the same monsters and same approaches to dealing with them over and over. Its the boss battles which crank the difficulty up to over 9000, and if we don't have the right deck by the time we reach them, there is nothing we can do to pull it off. Plus there is some shady business going on with monetization schemes, where even paid version of the game makes us spend money to unlock additional classes and grind a lot to buy permanent improvements. Only truly dedicated players will be interested in dealing with all this nonsense. [...] UPD: Haven't checked on it for a long time - maybe the situation improved somehow. Crimson Deep is still in early alpha and was not updated for a long time. But the development hasn't stopped, and there is a new major release approaching in the nearest future. It makes no sense to talk about the game till then: the version in the store is too raw to provide any significant gameplay experience, but it would be interesting to see where it goes in the end. Dimension of Dream is probably the only game that has the same grid-based dungeon layout as DQ itself. This time with full 3D and a possibility to fight only limited set of enemies before facing the final boss (which allows to moderate difficulty as we go, either defeating tougher enemies with better rewards, or to save HP and fight only the easy ones). This game has one of the most interesting battle systems and 6 truly unique classes with deep complex strategies unlike anything we have ever seen (not only the cards themselves, but the order in which we play them greatly affects the outcome). Unfortunately, the English version was pulled from Google Play, leaving only Chinese version for Asian people to enjoy. UPD: Apparently, the game was re-released under different publisher with the title Dreaming Dimension, so there you have it. [...] Meteorfall: Journeys offers the streamlined approach to dungeon crawling, where all our decisions boil down to Reigns-like "swipe left / swipe right" operation: picking the path, encounter resolutions, and even battles are simplified to utilize this binary choice mechanic. But don't worry: these specifics do not affect the gameplay, still providing enough strategic depth to appeal even to hardcore players. Add here a neat visual style, lots of character classes and their variations, cool card combos, and you get a true masterpiece, which is Meteorfall. [...] Night of the Full Moon offers a fresh take on a fairy tale of Red Riding Hood, but adding darker elements to it (including werewolves, zombies, mad scientists and cursed cultists). It demonstrates an amazing production quality with top-tier art, beautiful audio support, and intriguing storytelling. Gameplay wise, we have the closest thing to DQ, safe for the grid-based dungeon maps, which were changed to just picking the encounter out of available three. Some people may argue that the game does not offer enough strategic variety, only suggesting a single best build for each class, but you will still get different runs due to the randomness of card and power-up drops. Another argument of it being too easy is completely nullified on higher difficulty levels. Wish the story would develop in a different direction, though. [...] Spellsword Cards: Origins provides the gameplay similar to the Night of the Full moon, but focuses more on role-playing character development part. Aside from choosing a class, we also get to pick race with unique traits, and a school of magic, greatly affecting which cards will be available to us during the run. The problem here, though, is that monster encounters do not demonstrate a lot of variety, forcing us to fight the same enemies over and over, and the difficulty is rather high, with starting cards doing almost nothing and enemies quickly run out of hand with their devastating attacks, whereas good cards are hard to come by, and even then you will still be devastated on later stages. [...] UPD: Or maybe I am just bad at this game (welcome to comment section for valid strategy suggestions).
Slay the Spire clones
Blood Card offers a unique possibility to construct the dungeon ourselves, providing a pool of encounters of different types: regular monsters, elite monsters, events and shops. We pick a desired encounter from the pool, deal with it and then move on to the next one. Another interesting feature is that our health is defined by the number of cards in draw pile, which limits our tactical possibilities, but is compensated by the fact that we get multiple copies of cards as rewards for fighting enemies. There are a lot of interesting mechanics related to moving cards between various piles, as well as other neat features (like: the Death inevitably arrives in three turns and starts whacking everyone on the field with increasing persistence), but I'll leave them for you to discover on your own. Card Crusade seemed like a cool idea of mixing classic "roguelike" dungeon crawling with its "deck-based" counterpart, where we explore the dungeon the same way as we do it in Hack, Angband, Pixel Dungeon and other similar games, but use cards to fight actual enemies. In reality though, this implementation just adds a useless abstraction, as the adventuring does not provide any tactical benefits and is only there to inter-connect battle sequences (heck, even breaking pots and chests does not give us any coin, of which developers themselves warn us at the very beginning!). The cards are not very interesting, with next to none cool synergies, and new classes (which should be unlocked by performing specific actions on previous runs) do not provide any major difference. [...] Card Quest takes us on an epic journey through fantasy lands, where we will perform great deeds as one of the classic RPG hero classes (fighter, wizard, rogue, ranger), each with their own equipment and fighting disciplines. The interesting part is that the cards we use during runs are defined by said equipment, and if we find some new pieces during our adventure, we get to keep them for further runs. Also worth noting that defense cards are played not during our turn, but during enemy turn, which requires us to plan ahead a bit. This being said, the game is extremely hard - it will take a lot of unsuccessful tries to finally reach the end. But the variety of dungeons and possible builds will keep us occupied for long. Dungeon Tales for a long time was the closest, yet simplified copy of StS mechanics (up to similar cards and gaming strategies), but without certain elaborate features, like upgrading cards or using potions. The basics are left intact though: we still build our deck along the way and face the powerful boss in the end. There are only two characters available yet, but each has a couple of viable builds, so it can keep us invested for quite some time. [...] Endless Abyss is a close StS clone with very similar character classes (only two so far) and a lot of cards with exactly the same effects. Graphically the game looks very good, but angry monetization, lots of grinding, and forced ads make it almost impossible to fully enjoy. [...] Heroes of Abyss is a predecessor to Endless Abyss with basically the same core gameplay, but very simplified dungeon crawling part. There is no floor map with choosing our path, nor there are elaborate adventure events: just a series of battles with the boss in the end. The spoils we get after each battle go into improving our starting deck and unlocking new difficulty modes with higher rewards. What makes the game unusual, is that we chose the preferred build right from the beginning with appropriate set of starting cards, without the need to rely on the randomness of card drops. It may be interesting to unlock and compare all the 6 available builds, but once the task is done, there is almost no reason to play the game further. Heroes Journey provides a different setting for a change: this time we will play as space explorers, who crash landed on an alien planet. Thus, instead of familiar swords and bows, we will be wielding blasters and energy shields: the rest remains the same, up to the majority of cards straight up copied from StS. Unfortunately, this innovative idea was completely ruined by repetitive grinding and angry monetization, forcing player to make dozens of identical runs with the same small card pool, until something adequate is unlocked. Oh, and the game is long abandoned by the developers. Pirates Outlaws is an amazing rework of original StS ideas in a pirate setting with some changes to gameplay mechanics, such as introducing persistent charges needed to play certain cards, and different buff/debuff statuses that replace each other. There are also some questionable features, such as ship stamina that deteriorates over the course of the journey and leads to game over if not repaired in time, or a quest system, where quests can not be completed in parallel, but instead picking the new quest resets your progress in the current one. Some may also argue that new classes take long to grind for, or expensive to pay for, but with permanent booster pack this should not be a problem. Anyway, the game is highly recommended for any StS fan. [...] Rogue Adventure offers a twist to usual mechanic: our hand is limited by 4 cards, but each time we use one of them, a new card is immediately drawn to its place, thus we never run out of cards to play. Non-starting cards are common for all classes, but are grouped by type (or race), giving huge synergies depending on how many similar cards we have. Aside from this, the game offers diverse gameplay by providing a lot of different classes, each with its own unique strategies and dynamics, and some interesting items to work around. The developers constantly provide updates with bug fixes and new content, but be warned that new mechanics may break what you are already accustomed for. Royal Booty Quest started as a straight rip-off from StS with the same classes and abilities, and even cards having the same names. And absolutely atrocious pixelated visuals, which were not possible to look at without eyes bleeding out. Over time, though, it developed its own unique mechanics and interesting card combinations, but the art style did not get any better. However, if this is not a problem, the game is enjoyable to an extent, but since it was not updated for a long time, I doubt it will keeps anyone's interest for long. [...] Tavern Rumble adds an unusual strategic element - a 3x3 grid, on each units and enemies are placed. The core gameplay remains the same (we still see what opponents are planning to do each turn and adjust our own strategy accordingly), but the addition of the grid introduces another tactical layer: not only we should maximize the damage output, but also plan the layout for our troops to provide the effective delivery of said output, while at the same time establish enough defense to minimize the damage to ourselves. There are a lot of cards and classes to play around, different play modes and a lot of features that are still being constantly added to the game. Some may argue about simplistic pixel graphics or long repetitive grinding, but it is easy to unlock everything within reasonable amount of time, even without paying. [...]
Other Games
Of course, my criteria does not work 100% of the time, as some games are way too different from anything else to confidently enroll them into one of the categories. They either demonstrate traits of both, or implement entirely unique mechanics of their own (which I like the most), while still maintaining the basic dungeon crawling ideas (so a lot of the games you might think of will not end up in the list). What I have in mind is the following: Dungeon Reels removes the cards from card-based dungeon crawler - why bother, right? Instead, it provides some kind of a slot machine, where each turn three rows spin independently to pick available actions based on what slots we have in our reel. Winning battles awards us with new, better slots to add, each with their own specifics and synergies. Enemies also randomize their moves with slots of their own, but the most satisfying mechanic is the possibility to spin a jackpot with three identical slots for some powerful effect. It is interesting to see this concept developed further, but the game has not been updated for a long time. Iris and the Giant takes us on journey through imaginary world, inspired by Ancient Greek mythology. Each battle takes place on a grid, where various enemies advance in huge numbers. We play a card from our hand, usually dealing damage to nearest enemy, and then everyone who is still standing and can reach us deals damage in return. There are cards that target multiple enemies at once, as well as ways to play more than one card during our turn, so most of the time we will be deciding which card to play at which moment. The deck has limited size, and if it becomes empty we lose, so new cards should be constantly acquired. There are a lot of interesting mechanics to discover, but the game is very hard and luck based, requiring a lot of trial-and-error to finally reach the end. [...] Phantom Rose Scarlet has the same basic core, but with completely innovative battle system, not seen in any other game. On each turn there are four positions for cards to be played in strict order, where two of them are randomly filled with opponent's cards, and the remaining two are left for us to fill. Instead of drawing the hand, we have our entire deck available right away, but playing cards puts them on a cooldown, which does not reset between battles, so we constantly face the strategic choice of playing our best cards right away or keep them for later. The game is in active development, providing new mechanics and further developing the story, which is quite captivating here. [...] Void Tyrant is a bit of a stretch, but still a "card based dungeon crawler", in which we basically play BlackJack against our enemies by dealing card with numbers from 1 to 6 one-by-one from our deck until we stand or bust. Whoever has the highest value wins and deals damage to the loser. There are various supporting cards on top of this mechanic, allowing us to either jinx the outcome in our favor, or to perform various other metagame manipulations. The only downside of the game is the lack of content, as it quickly runs out of interesting things, and since it was not updated for a long time, it is unlikely that anything new will be added in the future. [...]
Conclusion
As you see, there is a lot to play besides StS, so even if you are not hyped by its long-awaited Android release, but appreciate a good intellectual dungeon crawler, you will find something to suit your needs. I hope, even with StS release, new games of the genre will continue appearing on mobile phones, and I will gladly review them and add to the list. If you know any hidden gems (or even trash) that was not highlighted in this article, please share the names and/or links in the comments. I am also open to any discussions on the topic, as I am obviously able to talk a lot about my favorite genre. Good luck to everyone in all your endeavors. P.S. I am well aware of games like Dungeon Cards, Card Adventure, Dungeon Faster, Meteorfall: Krumitz Tale, Card Thief, Maze Machina, Cube Card, Card Hog, Fisherman, Relics of the Fallen and other "grid-based puzzles", but do not consider them to be a part of the "family".
I heard you guys like reading patch notes... So how about a fake one?
General / QoL
Dark Mode is now available as a setting and on by default. We also tied down the guy (who wrote the flashingly bright note about seizures) in a opthalmic speculum, in a dark room while opening and closing the said bright note for 3 hours.
Light Mode uses grayish / genshin-impact-blue color scheme.
Users can now map keys in settings.
New user center setting : Allow Teyvat Times to publish my in-game alias (not username) and last 4 digits of my UID (When you set a world record of hunting fowl and etc.)
Added setting for persistent aiming mode. If turned on, your character will try to get back to aiming mode even when you dash or you are knocked back.
Going in and out of aiming mode is now much smoother. You can still dash, cast skills and still keep the cursor on. Inspired by Tombraider? Idk why I wrote this.
When crafting an item and you run out of materials for it, the item selected stays in place and will not scroll all the way down.
When choosing characters for the abyss, the preview button to see which enemies you will face is also there.
When finishing an abyss floor, you can return to the abyss menu without ending the "run" to collect rewards or browse around.
Fixed a bug with sucrose/xinqiu bonus materials when crafting.
Fixed a bug with razor's c1 constellation not increasing his damage and not displaying a buff indicator.
All buffs are now grouped/stacked by icon category, attack/defense/regen etc. Hovering the cursor in the grouped icon will display verbose info. (e.g. thrilling dragon tales, character talent, gouba pepper etc).
Daily Login Bonus is permanent.
Claim All and Repeat Buttons are now available in Blacksmith, Battlepass, Expeditions and the Like.
VA/CV list is displayed instead of current selected voice language in character details. (e.g. if you go to a character screen, and have english voice language, you will only see english voice actor and you have to change language just to find out who the cn and jp voice actor is)
Hide ui/hud setting and dedicated hotkey is added for creating fan-made cinematics.
Unless it is an artifact or a weapon, an item previously recorded and consumed will no longer display as "new"
Added shield bar on top of health bar
Added party icon on the top right ui and a dedicated hotkey to switch parties
Added hotkey to switch to your saved Comps 1 to 4
Resin is now always visible at the top of UI (without needing to open up the map)
Moved UID a bit further down by 2px so it doesn't overlap with the buttons
Changed UID Opacity by 75% and has grayish text color, inspired by "windows is not activated"
Added a space character on the launcher download text (e.g. "Downloading75%" into "Downloading 75%")
Bonus damage from element-affected status (e.g. "deal 15% increased damage against cryo affected enemies" are enclosed in parentheses
Expedition Slot Remembers Last Character Used
Expedition Slot Remembers Last Hour Used
All map objects are navigatable for consistent experience. and are not overridden by quests. You will always be directed towards the one you choose.
Navigated Map Object Always Display Their Distance and Light Beacon (e.g. Leylines not having those)
Added enemy weakspot zones with varying degrees (green,orange,red) in the adventurer's handbook, if you kill 150 of a certain enemy type. Humanoid types generally have the head as a weakspot.
Fraction of Fraction of a bullet time effect and a red particle glows when you hit the weakest spot of an enemy.
Reading and Clearing Story/Voice Lines syncs across all devices you own.
Statues' Remaning Healing Energy now Visible on the Tower Itself. Dat Glowy thingies deplete when you use them.
Statue's First Healing Tick Revives Fallen Characters by 10hp%. Second Healing Tick is Full Restoration or until Remaining Healing Energy Allows it.
Critical strike Indicator
Enemies in the handbook are dynamically arranged by type , then alphabetically. All hypostasis are lined up.
All enemies are displayed in the handbook regardless of what region you currently are.
Journal (J) is now binded to (F1), since this is where you look commissions for rather than the Adventurer Handbook (F1)
Journal , Handbook and Archive are compressed and combined.
We bought a time machine and went back to the time when we did the hypostasis event. The last challenge in the event is now a new hypostasis after the three old hypostasis.
Andrius's Boss Fight is now properly a Trounce Domain, For consistency with other weekly boss.
Changing a Team Member in your active roster won't override that slot in your saved team comp
Active Roster and Saved Team Comps are now a seperate thing
Selecting a Saved Team Comp will replace the Active Roster (so you can replace one member before "deploying")
Clicking Deploy in a Saved Team Comps will immediately send you back to the game
Switching Party Members is smoother than an oiled tits smooth, regardless of network latency. Especially in Single Player Mode.
Resource and Player Position in the map has better visual clarity. (Imagine klee collecting wolf berries or philly mushrooms)
Option to adjust map size , and resource/player icons.
PC , map pin size collision reduced. If I clicked Taishan Mansion, I meant Taishan Mansion.
Mora , Artifact Limits and etc always visible in inventory screen regardless of which tab you are on
Blacksmith remembers the quantity of ores you refine
Adventurer's Handbook remembers the last filter you used when browsing enemies (all, elite ,boss)
Adventurer's Handbook points you the next enemy you are hunting (when you kill 1 ruin guard, you dont have to open handbook again to see the next one in the map)
Adventure's Handbook knows ALL of the elite enemy locations. The list seem to be manually added instead of dynamic, possibly due to chest concealment similar mechanic. If you hunt ruin guards, I think the book only lists 4 of them in the whole map.
Gameplay
Training dummy added near favonius hq. You have to do a story quest and spend resource to have it constructed.
Enemies now have a difficulty rating. The higher the difficulty rating is, the higher character xp/gold they will provide. XP scales off your adventure rank level. Extra Large enemies have a guaranteed chance to drop 1-4* artifacts. They will respawn longer as a consequence. It doesn't make sense that a huge lawachurl and smol hilichurl both give 20xp.
First and Second Dash now have different color indicators.
If you used 2 dashes consecutively, a subtle glow/indicator pops around your character for when you are able to dash again. Inspired by Deadcells.
Added Treasure Compass for Dragonspire.
All excess anemoculus/geoculus/dendroculus and crimson agate can now be traded in the antiques shop.
Treasure Compass will automatically change depending on what region you are on. If you don't have a treasure compass for that region, it will remain unchanged from what is the last equipped.
Treasure Compass search radius is increased region wide. It will point the "nearest" treasure chest's direction. The color of the direction changes the farther you are.
Treasure Compass will now consider puzzles as treasure, and display a different indicator. It won't tell you what steps to take to open it, though.
Added a domain for gladiator and wanderer's troupe artifact sets. Artifact drop rate from world bosses are FURTHER reduced. Weekly boss artifact drops are unaffected.
Prototypes will now drop at least once in the last weekly boss you face, if you are unlucky. The chance to acquire multiple prototypes within a week is unchanged. Drop rate is reduced consequently.
World Boss Artifact Drop Rates are now visible in the adventurer's handbook.
Prototype Drop Rates are now visible.
Domain Artifact Drop Rates are now visible.
1-3* Weapons are now craftable. They will require a shit ton of ores and materials. Cold Steel for instance will require 200 pieces of mint.
Added 6 new craftable weapons. Of course it will require prototypes you f2p piece of shit.
Craftables, Shops and Loot have higher priority versus signboards and npc.
Monsters and Enemies have higher priority (when attacking or casting skills) versus ores and flaming/freezing flowers and other resource objects.
You can now equip up to 3 gadgets.
New Action : long pressing a gadget opens up Gadget Wheel to switch gadgets without opening the inventory. Gadget goes into long cooldown.
Domains now consider your condensed resin before saying you are out of resin.
After completing a domain challenge, The start challenge object will respawn in the center of the arena. Game will no longer go into a loading screen. This is for the console peasants.
When claiming domain challenge rewards, it also displays how much condensed resin you have (so you know you can still do 1 more, or gtfo) when it asks if you want to continue or leave
Anemo Hypostasis will die if you manage to collect all the orbs, for a more consistent experience with other hypostasis.
Weekly boss timers are now consistent. (Some have none , some at top, some at bottom)
Dvalin's Mini Cutscene will hold your altitude (if you are gliding) when it triggers
Childe's Mini Cutscene is now automatically skippable (named "skip when already viewed once" found in settings).
Food is now sortable by type.
When choosing a revival food, the icon sizes are reduced and displayed in a grid rather than a long line. When in single player mode it slows down time. Like witcher 3 or tomb raider.
MRE can now hold all types of food, up to 3 slots.
You can long click/hold the MRE button and switch the food it holds. Goes into long cooldown.
Charged Longsword and Bow Attacks (for claymoreless comps) will now allow you to mine ores more effectively. This affects rock shield wall hilichurls as well.
No one uses claymore charged attacks, even with stunned enemies. Claymore charged attacks now deal increasing damage the longer it was charged uninterrupted. You will get staggered and take more damage as a consequence. The last attack of a charged attack deals more damage and wipes half of the planet's population.
Constellation can now be toggled on/off
Gacha / Shop
The first cheapest crystal top up (60+60) has been buffed to (80+80) crystals. We realized it wasn't even enough for a single pull and we laughed until our sides hurt. As a tiny token of goodwill this will retroactively affect everyone who purchased this item for n amount of times the person has purchased this item.
All in-game currencies (primo/fate/genesis/future except mora) are always displayed in the topright corner when wishing and shopping.
Pity Counter. When it reaches 75 it glows like christmas.
Gifting of purchase is now possible. In the case of chargebacks , the gifter gets banned. Gifts can only be sent after 60 days of purchase, and usable by the recipient after a week. Maximum of 1 gift per month.
Gifter must have a track record of >= $20 of purchase within the last 3 months.
Gifting is a sensitive topic. Chargeback scams fucks up game companies, banks and third party payment platforms.
Purchase history and total is added to track expenses.
Gambling addicition reminders when you rage spend. Also alerts a mhy employee when huge purchases are being made in error. It displays a huge red alert on the employees screen.
In Consideration
Reworked Elemantal Mastery to also increase Elemental Skill Damage by 25% (base, some current/future characters might interact with less or more) of your total Elem Mastery. Consequently, Skill Damage from Attack Ratios are lowered. Think of ad/ap ratios in League of Legends.
Character skills to deal compound damage of physical+element when using a weapon (e.g. diluc smash bouncing off pyro slimes, despite his big sword being sharp and shiny)
Items
Wind Catcher Gadget now refills with anemo energy particles.
Prototype Aminus/Archaic's proc cooldown refinement is restored. (Used to be 15/14/13/12/10)
Boar Traps are now craftable and equippable as a gadget. You can leave it up to 48 hours to check if you caught something.
Cast net are now craftable and equippable as a gadget. Can be used to catch multiple fish and crystal flies.
Crab Traps , can be left in the wild for 48 hours and catches 3 crabs per trap.
Inflatable balloon for safe swimming. Requires anemo slime materials.
Portable towers no longer expire.
Portable towers max deployed count is increased up to 5.
Condensed Resin can now be used on World Boss
Condensed Resin cap increased to 5.
Artifact Inventory Limit increased to 5000.
Weapon Cooldown Indicator displayed as status icon (sacrificial sword, archaic, etc)
Seelie Companions give 1% passive bonus CharXP(Blue), CompanionXP(Purple), Mora(Gold)
Crafting Table no longer consumable
Portable Cooker no longer consumable (requires fuel , 1 fire stamen = 3 uses)
Portable Warmer no longer consumable (requires fuel , 1 fire stamen = 3 uses)
Items mined are ores
Refined ores are ingots
Option to refine Magical Crystal Chunk without resin, but with immensely increased cost and time
Coop
You can see the general direction and how far an ally is like in pubg.
In-game voice chat for random players in matchmaking
Battlepass / 12 Episode Anime
Battlepass can now have excess points up to 3000xp , for the times when you do your reputation bounty and missions earlier before the next battlepass comes out.
When a new Battlepass starts, it starts on mondays , so no mission gets left out. All excess days until the next new-battlepass-monday are dynamic and flexible.
When using a condensed resin in a domain, it counts as 2 domains cleared in the Battlepass
Cooking ingredients (sugar, bacon, cheese, etc) counts as cooking in the Battlepass
You don't need to switch tabs in the battlepass when using claim all. Clicking claim all, claims all.
New battlepass campaign for 12 episode anime. Milestones are displayed on website and forum. Sales earned are transparent in game and website. Inspired by dota 2 international.
Percentage of battlepass campaign sales will go to anime funding.
Having at least 1 season of anime puts mihoyo in the "mainstream" status in the leagues of Fate, Princess Connect, Grand Blue etc. It solidifies the IP.
Quests
Option to abandon story quests (restart from scratch) to prevent blocking of coop
Repeatable Quests Ideas below. Coop and matchmaking is enabled. 15~30 minutes long, walking pace. Not mandatory for daily activity/event/battlepass for people with little time to play. Gives worthwile rewards (3 pieces of adventurer's wit, 5k mora etc)
Long escort caravan mission, from Mondstadt all the way to Liyue. From Springvale to Liyue. People and Caravan must survive. Enjoy the beautiful world of Teyvat, optional pit stops, coop chat/discord, region guard checkpoints and enemy ambush. Multiple client routes available. Go through dragonspire for a shorter, but more dangerous path. Get harassed by Fatui at borders. Board a ship and load the caravan. Get checked by Border Patrol for smuggled goods and diseases.
Repeatable Town defense without towers. Defend the Town from hordes of invaders. Something fun with coop.
Fatui and Friends Battle Royale. All npcs and doors disabled. You and the fatui bots duke it out. Healing only comes from special food that you pick up. Matchmaking enabled.
Beach Defense. Prevent the Fatui from invading the coastline. Your friends rain arrows from starsnatch cliff.
Beach to Mondstadt/Springvale goods escort services.
Elemental Reactions
Vaporize's Steam deals aoe damage
Overloads damage (electro->pyro) now deals x1.5 (pyro) damage
Overloads damage (pyro->electro) now deals x2 (pyro) damage.
Overload's knockback decreased significantly
Superconduct's damage (electro->cryo) now deals 2x (cryo) damage
Superconduct's damage (cryo->electro) now deals 1.5x (cryo) damage
Superconduct's negative armor debuff is moved to Melt
Melt gains the negative armor debuff due to the sudden temperature change, making surfaces brittle.
Melt damage consequently reduced. (pyro->hydro) at x1.4% , (hydro->pyro) at x1.8%
Geo New Reaction : Smoldering Rock or something (pyro->geo)(reverse not applicable) deals x0.3 (pyro damage) on top of crystallize
Geo New Reaction : Mud or something (hydro->geo)(geo->hydro) deals x0.1 (geo damage) on top of crystallize, slows enemy movement
Geo New Reaction : Snow or something (hydro->geo)(reverse not applicable) deals x0.2 (cryo damage) on top of crystallize, slows enemy attack speed
Geo New Reaction : Seeds or something (dendro->geo) deals x0.1 (dendro damage) on top of crystallize, restores 3% of your hp. Or entangle. Prevents enemy movement (can still attacc and cast spells)
Enemies
Enemies inside domains and abyss have their return-to-spawn-point-then-regenerate-to-full-health disabled.
Enemy AI a bit smarter. Those with mobility skills (whopper, smol geovishap, cycin mages) won't follow you to drown in the water. The game will not check if you are wet , but if you are in a swimming state.
Hydro Abyss Mage's and Hydro Fatui Gunner's Hydro Barrier now takes the same damage rate/ratio from opposing elements (cryo,electro) for consistency.
Hydro barrier new opposing element : Geo. It makes it harder to maintain the water shield due to the mud soaking up the water and adding weight.
Boss Childe's Spirit Whale Attack generates water in the sides of the arena, pushing you towards the center. You must have enough stamina to keep dashing to the sides before he does this, or you will have to perfectly dodge the spirit whale attack.
Hydro SamaChurl now heals at a rate of +300/HoT per AR Milestone instead of percentage. This is for when you are hunting a LawaChurl Bounty that is near dead and healed to full health in 3 seconds. Having a fixed amount of healing ensures that it is big enough for the intended smaller enemies and portionally good enough for large enemies. The other option is to use different healing ratios for small and large enemies.
Queen of Pain , I mean Cycin Mages have a stagger window when they are about to cast their almost-undispellable shield
Zed , I mean Shadow Fatui Agent makes use of his shadows to dodge your attack sometimes.
Smol Geo Vishap now drops less geo shields
Smol Geo Vishap now uses his rolling attack near you, not 150m away from you.
Smol Geo Vishap now burrows a bit less frequently
Ruin Hunter doesn't stay in the air up and raining artillery forever , in consideration of bowless comps
Fatui Cryo and Hydro Gunner Turn Rate Reduced by 10% when on Spray Mode.
Primo GeoVishap now has a tired/exhausted animation, instead of standing still and looking at you and what life could have been for 10 seconds.
Primo GeoVishap spin attack now has a 0.2 dodge window (previously none) and Spin Radius Decreased by 100m.
Characters
Dvalin's Cutscene when you dispel his barrier is removed and much smoother. He just falls in place and no clipping.
Character's "Main Stat" is now visible in attributes. Previously you can only know it when ascending or when using google, or if you really have a big brain.
All characters passive talents are now combat related.
All characters now have their own cooking/exploration/crafting/smithing talents. It is possible not to have OR have multiple talents in each category. We get it , everyone can taste what a good gravy is, but not everyone can make a good gravy.
Ayaka
Alternate sprint binded to a different hotkey.
Yes I came from the future.
Albedo
Elevator can be activated to go up and down by using the F key.
C2 stack counter / indicator via particles (think of razor geo sigils)
C4 plunged attack covers albedo's sword in geo energy (like noelle, but smol)
C6 crystallize shield has a different shape (leaf)
Amber
Increased ultimate radius by a tiny bit.
Allow targeting of ulimate by holding the ultimate button.
If baron bunny is present in the ultimate radius, it will absorb all pyro damage and deal it as bonus damage when it blows up.
If baron bunny was "charged" with pyro rain and hit with a C2 charged shot, it will trigger a micheal bay explosion animation.
Barbara
Restored Barbara's Energetic Voice Lines
New Lines sold seperately as Dark Barbara™ , comes with a Dark Dress
C6 Revive indicator is now visible as a buff.
C4 now generates flying energy particles instead of instantly regaining energy. Mind you that this is a fucking nerf to this piece of shit healer that freezes you. It's just that there's no flying particles when you use this hero.
Beidou
Casting the elemental skill applies a strong taunt and re-initializes enemies attack loop.
Bullet Time effect added when triggering a perfect counter, when playing in single player mode.
The ultimate's chain lightning deals tiny spark damage if it didn't jump.
C2 chain lightning has a different color.
C4 buff is triggered when you do a perfect counter (Taking damage to activate a skill promotes bad gameplay)
C4 perfect counter grants the maximum damage bonus
C4 shield has a different color.
C6 has aura on the ground (inspired by Dota 2's Necrophos , but purple)
Bennet
C6 Ultimate pyro infusion just adds pyro damage to your attacks, and won't convert them fully into pyro.
C6 Ultimate restores up to 100% hp.
Childe
Improved manly posture when in aiming mode
C4 Riptide slash and flash uses different coloparticles/animation
C6 has an indicator when it works and when it is available
Chongyun
Cryo Field's Cryo infusion just adds cryo damage to your attacks, and won't convert them fully into cryo.
Diluc
What seriously? You really want more?
Fuck this guy in particular
Elemental Sword Duration Indicator added
C6 his flames has some bluish tint
Diona
Fixed shield duration bug and increased by additional 1.1 seconds per claw.
Shield ratio based off max hp increased by 10%
C2 reduces skill cooldown by -2 seonds (press) and -4 (hold). The coop shield is added by default out of the box. Anything coop should not be locked behind a paywall because it will hurt the game and fanbase.
C4 has been reworked to grant normal and aimed uncharged shots 25% chance to deal charged attack shots.
C6 radius is increased and uses a different color.
Fischl
Ultimate now deals tiny bit of damage per 0.2 seconds tick when making contact with enemies (aside from getting hit by lightning once)
Ultimate can fly/pass through thorn walls. I'm looking at you Dendro Samachurl.
Shadow Raven Let Night F---!!!
C4 Ultimate hp restored now scales off damage dealt by the ult.
Ganyu
holding the elemental skill allows you to aim and won't make you backdash
C4 Freezing Field changes color intensity per damage increase
C6 free frost charged arrow now works with normal unaimed attacks.
C6 uses a different particle color. Sometime it turns into a bazooka.
Jean
Reduced Increased swaying of boobs by a tiny amount while holding the skill. You can kinda feel them slapping against your face. You can almost describe their softness and warmth in a minimum of 10 pages apart from you going sommelier describing how deep her sweat tastes like.
Jean's Charged Attack Launch Height is too damn high that you cant even hit the enemy, so - Reworked Jean's Charged Attack : Holding the attack button launches the enemy in the air. If you keep holding it down you will perform 3 slashes in the air. If you let go early you will stay on the ground.
Base Attack Increased by +5
Jean can now pick up the slimes dropped by enemies and use it against them for a bighead move
Ultimate radius is increased
Ultimate Wall Mechanic Reversed. Enemies are now trapped inside. When you use your skill (usually to regain energy) you can air-wall slam them. Block Projectiles from outside.
If any of you actually played jean support, a normal person would use ult to heal, cast skill to regain energy, then switch back to other characters. It doesn't make fucking sense to push them outside your wind arena because you want to fight inside the swirl/healing zone.
Ultimate swirls every 0.2 seconds , depending on what elements are inside. Field Changes Color Each Time Like a Disco Ball
Ultimate now slowly succs enemies to the center(without lifting them up)
Ultimate Damage is consequently reduced.
C1 Uses a different colored windblast
C2 Buff Indicator
C4 uses a different color wind field
C6 Ultimate is now an aura and moves with you. To break away from "buffed area" convention.
C6 Ultimate will get you to keep the windsaber for the ult's duration
C6 Shield Buff Indicator via Particle and Status Icon
Kaeya
Base attack incresed by 5
Elemental Skill (Hold) Sprays Ice , think of Igni but Ice in Witcher 3 or DND's Burning Hands
C2 Icicles light up when you defeat an enemy indicating that it really works
C4 Barrier is of different shape
C6 uses a different icicle particle for bling purposes
Keqing
Aiming mode feels a lot smoother. You can aim while moving and cursor immediately shows and the kungfu pose is only done when throwing the stilleto.
When in single player mode, casting your ultimate produces a bullet time effect.
C4 Buff Indicator
C6 Description is confusing as fuck.
C6 Buff indicator
C6 Makes your sword light up like a lightsaber.
Klee
Imroved Torch/Bonfire/Campfire and the likes Lockon (if there's any to begin with)
Throwing Jumpty Dumpty provides 0.1s iframe during her spin
Ult is now no longer greedy. Pyro satellites remain when you switch characters, making our lovable klee open up for support options. Child support.
C4 is now manually triggered, Pressing q again will make her explode, bigger damage based off remaining duration. less duration left, less damage.
C6 klee uses different bombs
Lisa
A lingerie shop is opened in Mondstadt to change her pantsu, socks and garter belt style and colors. Black Leather Tight Suit™ Sold Seperately.
Option to wear glasses as a Librarian added.
Climbing voice volume is re-mastered in asmr microphone, in all languages.
Requires "i am of legal age" consent in the user center
Elemental skill (press) aoe slightly increased.
Base attack increased by 15.
Mona
Alternate dash is now binded to alt key.
Hydro Puppet now deals half damage upon cast and half damage upon explosion.
C6 normal attacks use a different attack animation.
MC (Anemo)
Palm vortex can be casted in midair to break your fall (but not propel you up)
MC (Geo)
When you overlap geo boulders (aimed mode) it will trigger the geo explosion of the older rock, then replace it with a new one
Ningguang
Holding the skill button surrounds her in mini jade screens , unable to perform any action until it is released or ends. Useful for cinematic stuff. Imagine tanking childe's whale attack. Or someone wants to recreate triple rashomon scene.
C6 has a chance to use different attack animation.
C6 star jade now resembles a primo gem.
Noelle
Elemental Sword Duration Indicator added
C1 heals have a special effect and voice line when conditions are met.
C2 upgrade uses a different charged attack animation.
C4 uses a different barrier color
C6 upgrade uses different ult (possibly red with the same hue as her skirt) color.
Qiqi
C2 reworked as -15% attack debuff
C4 reworked as -20% elemental resistance debuff
C6 cooldown/availability indicator.
C6 has a different bling/color
Razor
Transformation Duration Indicator added
C1 increased damage now really works
C1 now has a buff indicator that it really works
C2 now has a special crit indicator
C4 armor shred now has a (claw mark) armor shred indicator that it really works
C4 (hold) has increased damage so it doesn't feel left out. It also has electro explosions similar to when you mine an electric ore as a special effect to indicate that you are C4 and have a big PP.
C6 covers your sword with electricity (like diluc) when it is charged and ready
Yes I play razor a lot.
Sucrose
Fixed crafting bug not producing any bonus when using large quantities (say 100+)
Improved lock on when blowing off dandelion flowers. Idk how she keeps missing them even at point blank range, Hell , at any given range.
C1 if you overlap the wind nukes the second one will be a 0.1s delay then it will go off with a slightly bigger radius
C2 ult has a different color
C4 has an indicator that it works
C6 buff indicator
Venti
Wind current generated by skill (hold) allows him to fall slower without gliding, and allows him to shoot wind lasers. Ehe
C2 Charged Shot produces a bullet time effect when shot at point blank or if all 3 arrows hit a single enemy. Sometimes he draws the holy lyre and it transforms into a primitive shotgun.
C4 buff indicator.
C6 uses different vacuum color
Xiangling
Ultimate deals additional damage when cast at point blank because you get stab and bonk while she is twirling her spear.
C2 last attack leaves a flaming trail special effect (inspired by kyo or iori from king of fighters)
C6 upon cast, Xianling automatically does a speed-up full normal attack combo and then releases the pyronado normally (while covered in flames or some shit). If you are in single player mode and there are no other enemies within 150 radius the ult will cause the screen to black out, like in legend of legaia.
C6 during the ultimate if it contacts with gouba's flames it produces micheal bay effects while raining carpet bombs and shit.
Yes flat is justice.
Xingqiu
Floating Swords Duration added
Fixed crafting bug not producing any bonus when using large quantities (say 100+)
C4 Allows you to hold the elemental skill for double backflips (inspired by law from tekken) cooldown is 1 month.
C4 Elem Skill leaves a faint rainbow (when ulted)
C6 Swords emit faint rainbow color. Rainbow power motherf-
Xinyan
Hitting large enemies counts as 2 enemies.
C1 buff indicator
C2's level 3 shield has some bluish flames
C6 charged attack uses a diffent attack animation or has an indicator that it works
Xiao
Transformation Duration Indicator added
C2 now leaves a trail of anemo energy that deals tiny bit of damage , trail lasts for 1 second and deals at 0.2s intervals.
C6 plunge attack counts large enemies as 2.
C6 plunge-attack-no-cooldown-empowered-dashes uses a different particle color and produces a bullet time effect when used for the 3rd time onwards. useful for cinematic purposes
C6 during the bullet time you can sneak in a normal attack once per dash
Bullet time is always disabled in multiplayer
Zhongli
Increased pillar aoe by a tiny bit
Generates energy particles per pulse, maximum of 1 enemy per pillar
Base attack increased by 5
Travelers can redeem promo code "WHOSYOURDADDY" for additional +5 damage, regardless if they have the hero or not.
Attack ratios increased by 3% per attack category.
C1 has a slightly bigger dong eherm statue
C4 Chaos Meteor errrr I mean Order Meteor has a different rock color
C6 shield uses a different color , come on you get the drift already.
C6 Meteor is affected by the element of the barrier you are wearing. The element is dealt as secondary damage, primary damage is still geo. (flaming space rock?)
Why different coloparticles/animation when you have C1-C6 upgrade?
It makes whales feels special, and it gives F2P players something to aspire for. It makes you want to spend with all the bling. Particle recolor is easy peasy and can be deployed within minutes. Attack animations on the other hand are time consuming. It almost always put smile in people's faces when a whale shows up in a ferrari. "Dude check this out a C6 GeoDaddy joined my domain run. Look at the size of his statue. Oh my what a BIG meteor."
Why are you doing this?
It's just for my amusement. I'm still adding random thoughts now that 1.3 has launched. I don't care if nothing gets implemented. I would nut hard in my shorts with QoL and alleged bug/bugfixes mentioned in this post more than anything.
Afterword
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Thanks for the awards and all kinds of reception
You guys are awesome and insane that's a shit load of awards thank you.
The Great Single Class Thief Compendium: how to be a non-Fighter fighting Thief, why Alchemy is underrated, a list of items to abuse with UAI, and a (complete?) list of Time Trap/Stop and backstab immune enemies. Among other shennanigans!
EDIT: Since I already wrote about it in the comments, I added a section about thieving skills point distribution. EDIT2: added some more thoughts about how much more damage we can do with a Time Trap vs a Spike Trap due to how probability works with the Spike Trap's 20d6 vs our maxed damage strategy for benefitting from Time Trap. First things first, this is the Enhanced Edition. It's what most people are playing and for good reason, so feel free to stop reading if that bothers you. Second, aside from convenience stuff (like tweaks anthology's bottomless bag of holding mod), the only mod I use is SCS with pretty much everything maxed except without the "Tactical Challenges" (cause I just find them tactics-narrowing and, consequently, boring. I like the original SCS philosophy which is to just enhance the game's AI with few actual statistical/ability changes). If you like that option, ok, good for you. I did a few playthroughs with them back in the day, but didn't care for it too much. Third, I just finished a playthrough of Shadows of Amn and Throne of Bhaal (didn't feel like playing BG1/SoD this time around) with a Half-Orc Assassin, so that's what I'm gonna be focusing on, especially cause most people's complaints of single class thieves pertain to Throne of Bhaal. With that said, let's get to it (feel free to skip certain sections, of course, it's a huge post): THIEVING SKILLS POINT DISTRIBUTION (just copy and pasted it from my comment below, I didn't talk about it before cause it's too basic, but maybe some newbies might be reading this) -There are several potions/equipment that increase your thieving skills, so you don't need to max out pickpocket, open locks or find traps. Plus, every point in dexterity increases every thieving skill except detect illusions by 5 points and you can increase dex permanently (eg tome) and temporarily (eg draw upon holy might). -95 is enough to open every lock and find every trap in the trilogy. But if you can reach 25 str temporarily that gets you the equivalent of 85 open lock through bashing. -You don't need much pickpocket unless you wanna steal from shops often, cause otherwise you can just buff it temporarily whenever you need it. -Hide and move silently max out at 200 each, but 100 on one of them is reasonable enough to just hide outside of combat (remember you can use quick load to speed up your hide attempts outside of combat). 100 in both is enough to max out in dark areas (lighter areas and being outside during the day give you penalties). If you wanna run+hide constantly put more into it earlier. Or, if you're playing a shadowdancer you need as much of this as possible right away. -Detect illusions can't be buffed so get it to 100, but you don't need it too much in bg1 cause there aren't many invisible/hidden enemies. -Set traps should be at 100 for convenience, but you can live with a lower number if you only trap outside of combat and don't mind reloading. It's absolutely essential to max out if you wanna trap during combat (by running away first ofc otherwise you can't use it). All in all, I just get some good hide/set traps/detect illusion early in soa and then start to minmax. Bg1 is really kit/strategy dependent but I ignore open lock/find traps for most of it (unlocking/disabling doesn't even get you much xp in bg1, why bother? Just take traps and bash locks unless doing no reload). KITS -Assassin: fantastic kit. Poison is a great buff (especially vs spellcasters, but not just that) with decent duration (5 rounds) that you can reapply a ton of times. That +1 to hit comes in super handy for thieves (who get worse thac0 progression than a cleric) and the +1 to damage actually makes a substantial difference when you consider it factors into backstabs. Every +1 damage (that factors into the backstab formula, so no Strength bonuses) means 7 extra damage on a single backstab or 63 extra damage in a single round of Assassination with 9 Attacks per Round (APR). And, of course, we get that sweet sweet x7 backstab, meaning Assassination can do MONSTROUS damage (easily over ~1000+ in a single round with 9APR). -Bounty Hunter: also great, though it's been a while since I've played a solo one to judge it properly. Being able to throw the special traps and have them explode in a fireball-sized area is great and the Maze traps are underrated (they ignore magic resistance and there's no save!), cause anything with under 18 Intelligence (most enemies, pretty much) and not immune to maze (again, the vast majority of enemies, even dragons/demons are vulnerable) gets caught up for at least 2d4 (probably more) leaving you with a great opportunity to place traps for when they come back. Plus, the smarter folks come back sooner, meaning spellcasters will probably be left alone and take the brunt of the traps (whose damage can pretty much only be stopped by the exact physical/elemental-damage resistance). -Swashbuckler: unnecessarily fighter-like IMO. As we'll see later, thieves can be quite the fighters if geared properly and it's rare that they're lacking either thac0 or AC. But since Swashbucklers get ridiculous amounts of thac0/AC by the end of the game it means you can get a little bit more creative with your gearing and access to Whirlwind is nice, I suppose. Not getting backstabs/access to Assassination is a huge bummer though. Shadowdancer: super fun kit, but they miss out on some of the best parts of thieves: high level abilities (HLAs). Shadow Form (essentially a stronger, but short-lasting Hardiness+Improved Invisibility) is great, Shadow Twin is simply unnecessary (it's a Simulacrum, cool, but there are already two other sources of Simulacrum...) and their Shadow Maze is crappy compared to the Bounty Hunter's maze trap cause it doesn't ignore magic resistance, there's a save (at -4, admittedly) AND it only affects a single opponent, not an area. But the worst part is that they don't get the amazing thief traps and their Assassination is super nerfed with that x4 multiplier. So why are they still good? Because they still get Use Any Item (UAI), shadowstep lets you dispel illusions comfortably in the chaos of battle and give you time for your hide cooldown to reset, but, most importantly, hide-in-plain-sight allows for a cheeky combo: Invisibility (not hiding) -> Backstab -> Insta-cast ability (eg use a wand if you're a single class SD or use a 0 casting time spell if you're a dual SD/Mage or Cleric) -> Hide (that's not on cooldown cause we weren't hidden to begin with, we were invisible before). That means you can constantly do a backstab + use a wand or cast a spell (or a triggesequencer!) and hide before the enemy can do anything. So the more sources of invisibility you have, the more you can do in combat without ever being engaged! If the enemy doesn't just straight up ignore invisibility you can pretty much play without armor if you want (if your hide/move silently are good, ofc). RACES Human: good for dualing, of course. Swashbucklers and Shadowdancers are the best duals IMO, unless you're willing to dual crazy late for the x7 Assassin backstab (you can do it if you're playing solo, but I wouldn't recommend it in a full party with six-way shared XP). Elf: -1 con makes no difference, but the +1 to dex is nice, cause we can easily get to 21 DEX (with 2 out of the 3 sources of +1 dex: BG1 Tome, the Machine of Lum and the Deck of Many Things) for that extra -1 AC and each point in dex gives us +5 to thieving skills (except Detect Illusions), but none of that is necessary cause we can still reach 21 DEX starting with 18 DEX and by the end of the game we'll have all the skills pretty much maxed out anyway. 90% charm immunity is nice though, I guess. Half-Orc: my preferred choice. Why? Thieves need more thac0, especially against late-late game bosses that are immune to Time Traps/Time Stop (meaning we can't just auto-hit them) and having more thac0 when you're a class with poor thac0 progression is always nice. Plus, you get more damage. In BG1 alone it's a huge difference cause jumping from 18 to 19 STR means -2 bonus to thac0 and +7 to damage. By the end of the game we can have natural 23 Strength, which is more than any girdle can give us. Other races: shorties are cool for saving throws, but thieves already get enough with all the saving throw-enhancing gear that UAI lets them use and with Greater Evasion that lowers them by a further 3 points. And we miss out on, again, what we need the most: thac0! The difference between maxing out at 22 and 23 is another extra point! GEAR Use Any Item is one of the main strengths of thieves, so, yes, talking about items is also talking about thieves. You can't ignore this. -Weapons: "easy, you're an assassin, just get the Celestial Fury or the Staff of the Ram for great backstab damage!" Sure, if all you want to do a single powerful backstab to one-shot a single powerful enemy that's fine, go for those. But after getting HLAs what you want is Assassination potential and those weapons, surprisingly, aren't the best for that. Plus, you probably want a thief that can actually fight well in battles even after backstabbing and without needing to go away to hide again or whatever (though that's an option, of course). So what's the big bad weapon combo? How do we turn out non-Fighter Thief into a fighting Thief? We need more APR. Belm+Kundane then? That'll get 1 base attack, 1 offhand attack, plus 2 main hand attacks. Double that if you're Improved Hasted, so 8 APR. Cool, but we can do a lot better than that. Both Belm and Kundane are +2 weapons, meaning a bunch of powerful enemies will be immune to them. +3 is the real deal (only Demiliches, the Lesser Demon Lord from the eggs main quest, the Ravager, the Fallen Solar at the final battle and Watcher's Keep's Aurumach Rilmani are immune to +3 weapons). Besides, Kundane only has 1d6 base damage, meaning it weakens our Assassination potential. The answer? Throwing daggers, motherf****! That's right! Throwing daggers ain't just for throwing!! Both the Boomerang Dagger +2 (which you can easily pickpocket right at the start of SoA) and the Firetooth +3 (available in Ust Nasha) give you an extra attack! It's just that you can't use them in the offhand, but that doesn't matter cause they're both great! Both do a respectable 2d4 damage (better than a long sword's 1d8!) and the Firetooh is a +3, plus it does 1d2 extra fire damage for some convenient troll killing and stoneskin harassing! So you use either of those in the main hand and Belm in the offhand, but if the enemy is immune to backstabs or immune to +2 weapons you switch Belm out to the Scarlet Ninja-to +3 (available in Joluv's shop at the Copper Coronet and useable by thieves with UAI!). Dope! 8 APR with a great +3 main hand weapon! As for the 9 APR... Gauntlets of Extraordinary Specialization, which you can use after getting UAI. That's an extra 1/2 APR normally, but a full 1 extra APR with Improved Haste. Other great weapons you should keep in mind are the usual (Mace of Disruption/Daystar against undead, that one staff that instakills golems you get in Ust Nasha... But there's more that people don't often talk about, like: -The Blackmist Halberd you get from giving the eggs to the Lesser Demon Lord in Ust Nasha, which is great in a secondary weapon slot cause it lets us cast area blindness (blindness is one of the best spells in the game) once per day. -The Sling of Arvoreen that stuns in an area for 3 rounds (auto-hits for our 9APR thief!). -The Darkfire Bow available in ToB for its long-lasting (23 rounds) improved haste cast. -The Answerer in ToB if you really want to worse the enemy's AC (I didn't need to resort to it once in my playthrough, but you can use it if you want). EDIT: as mentioned by semiticgod, "The Staff of the Magi can royally screw with Sendai in ToB. Unlike some other ToB enemies, the drow cannot see through invisibility, though SCS Sendai and company will use divination spells (the Cloak of Non Detection can preserve the staff's invisibility despite those spells)". I totally forgot to fight the Twisted Rune before going to ToB, so I screwed myself there. -+4 weapons for the few +3 immune enemies (which I only used to finish off the Aurumach Rilmani in Watcher's Keep and kill Demiliches, I'll talk about how to handle the Ravager later). ArmoAccessories: -Wands, you know them, you love them, you can backstab (or just attack) and then immediately cast them. I barely used them in my playthrough, but they're excellent, of course, especially the wands of paralyzation and spell striking. -Invisibility stuff. Obvious use. -Like I said before, Gauntlets of Extraordinary Specialization (SoA) to get to 9APR. -Headband of the Devout (ToB): blesses you (-1 thac0 and +1 backstab-effective damage!) and lets you cast Righteous Magic (+3 Strength and MAXED OUT DAMAGE) once per day lasting 1 turn aka 10 rounds!!! GET THIS!! Normally only monks can use it and it's available in Rasaad's quest, along with two other nice items (a cloak that gets you -2 stackable AC and Protection from Magical Energy and Boots with 3x/day Shadow Door). -Improved Haste (IH) gear: a) (SoA) Early on you can use the Ring of Gaxx to get 1 round of undispellable (hardly necessary, but I just thought I'd let people know about this if they didn't) IH 3x/day, it technically amounts to 5 rounds, not 3, cause each of the 3 casts lasts for 10 secs (a round is 6 secs), so you might end up doing more than 1 round's worth of attacks (it's hard to tell). b) (SoA) Bracers of Blinding Strike in the Underdark for 20 secs (a little over 3 rounds) of IH. You can equip it, cast it and equip something else. c) (SoA) Scrolls of Improved Haste, if you really want to have a longer lasting IH in SoA. There are quite a few and you won't need them in ToB, so use them freely. If you want, you can even waste a scroll of wish for it... d) (modded SoA or ToB) If you're using the mod (was it Tweaks Anthology?) that lets Cromwell forge the ToB recipes that you can already get in SoA then you can get the Improved Cloak of Protection +2 for those sweet 23 rounds of IH. e) (ToB) Amulet of Cheetah Speed, also 23 rounds of IH. -Cloak of Unerring Strikes (SoA) and later Montolio's Cloak (ToB) for extra offhand thac0 and, in Montolio's case also -1 save and AC bonus. -White Dragon Scale (SoA): best base AC out of any armor in game, available early in SoA, doesn't interfere with thieving skills, lets you cast Cone of Cold, protects from Cold (great for Melissan battle along with the Boots of the North)... The only problem is that it won't let you use the Improved Cloak of Protection +2, so when you get it switch to the Robe of the Apprenti (AC3) until you get another source of long-lasting IH. Or switch it out to cast IH with the cloak before battle and then put it back on. -Thieves' Hood (SoA): you're a thief, backstabs can hurt a lot in ToB, this makes you immune. Poison immunity is great too, but you got the Ring of Gaxx (which I'll cover with other regen gear) for that. -Paws of the Cheetah (SoA): along with (improved) haste this lets you run and hide or, better yet, run and place a Time Trap or Spike Trap! Essential!! -Helm of Balduran: we need that thac0 early on, boys and girls. Some HP and AC is nice too. -The Visage (SoA, from Dorn's quest): -1 bonus to saves and thac0, protects against crits (I just noticed this lol), can dominate once and has an acid breath attack and a big ol' list of immunities (fear, charm, feeblemind, confusion). What's not to love? It just takes a while to get cause you gotta finish Dorn's quest. It's dope, but after your saves get really low (naturally protecting you against those status as well) you get better stuff. -Book of Infinite Spells (SoA): Spell Turning! Underrated item and spell. You don't get a lot of spell protections as a non-spellcaster, especially the rechargeable kind, so this is one of the best. -Vhailor's Helm: more traps! More Assassinations! I actually forgot about using this until the literal final battle lol, but it's great. -Heart of the Mountain (SoA): available in Spellhold and normally only useable by Shamans, this gets you -2 AC and stacks with enchanted armorings! Excellent before ToB. -Amulet of the Master Harper (ToB): -3 bonus to AC, even better! Silence immunity and thieving skill bonuses aren't bad either. -Blessed Bracers (modded SoA Cromwell or ToB): resurrection heals you completely (at least until 2.6 comes! Though the text says it fully heals, so maybe it'll still after 2.6?) and there's some Cure Wounds too if you want. You're better off using a Rod of Resurrection cause it casts faster, but sometimes you just don't feel like using non-rechargeable item charges. Put it on, use it and switch out. -Nymph Cloak: cheesyyyyy, so cheeeeesy, but it's the kind of cheese I love. I tried not using it too much though, I just used it against a few Rakshasa early on and against Aesgareth's party. -Regen gear (I'll explain why this is great for thieves next): Ring of Regeneration, Ring of Gaxx (-2 AC and poison/disease immunity is great too ofc), Wong Fei's Ioun Stone (which also nets you some HP and -1 AC). REGENERATION "What? Why are you talking about regeneration? What does that have to do with thieves?" Alchemy = unlimited Potions of Regeneration that stack with all of the regen geaspells (all sources of regen stack INCLUDING DRINKING MULTIPLE POTIONS OF REGENERATION and I just discovered this last part after finishing the game). And Potions of Regeneration heal 2HP/round and last for 3 turns aka 30 rounds! Although Potions of Regen aren't super rare, they're also not available in ample supply, especially if you don't know where to find them all to begin with. But high level thieves can spam them freely cause they can always get more with Alchemy. So, if you're not a believe in regeneration like I am, let's explain how good it can be (this is the calculation without abusing potion of regen stacking, so only using one): -Ring of Regen 1HP/round (aka 1HP/6 seconds) -Ring of Gaxx 2/round -Wong Fei's Ioun Stone 1HP/Round -Potion of Regeneration 2HP/round = 6HP/round (aka 1HP/sec) x2 (cause Haste doubles it) 12HP/round (aka 2HP/sec) That's already pretty damn nice and it "reduces damage" a lot better than AC in ToB where some enemies still tear through -20 AC (plus, you can easily get to the AC cap and still wear all of those items and you've still got a cloak slot to spare and it doesn't force you into using regen weapons) But if you want some more quick regen as you run around you can use the Cloak of the Sewers' troll form to get you an extra 1HP/sec or 2 with haste, netting you 4HP/sec or 24HP/round which is almost a free Potion of Extra Healing (heals 27HP) every round. Hexxat makes this even better cause she's got "natural" (it's actually from her amulet) 1HP/round regen. And, of course, that's all without abusing the Potion of Regeneration stacking that can up as much as you can (though, again, you don't need it and I didn't use it cause I only discovered it now, after finishing the game), as long as you can be bothered to produce a ton of potions with Alchemy and resting (though they're temporary, so as you're drinking more you're wasting the duration of the previous ones, but it CAN get pretty ridiculous quickly and, hey, mages get crazy 8HP/sec WITHOUT HASTE regen from Shapechange -> Greater Wolfwere, so it's fair!). TRAPS Regular Traps: they eventually do 3d8+5 missile damage and 20 Poison damage with no save, Slays target if a Save vs. Death with a +4 bonus is failed. Pretty neat, especially if you stack a bunch, but not world-shattering. Spike Traps: everybody knows how good Spike Traps are, so I won't waste much time on them. They do 20d6 magic damage, so 20-120 (average 70). Magic damage is rarely (and I mean rarely) resisted, which makes them top tier and they can crush even Demogorgon and the final boss easily. I generally get 7 of them so I have the max stackable (was this a thing in vanilla or is this limit SCS-only? I don't remember) whenever I want without simulacrums etc.. Time Traps: bonkers. Amazing. Insanely underrated. Let's do some ToB-stage calculations (this is just the damage I was doing at some point in ToB with IH+Righteous Magic, it's not 100% minmax'd): Righteous Magic (max damage and 25 STR)+Improved Haste (9APR)+Time Trap (auto-hit) without backstabs/Assassination: Firetooth +3 -> 29 * 7 attacks (main hand) = 203 damage Belm +2 -> 28 * 2 attacks (offhand) = 56 damage = 1 trap spent, 1 round = 259 non-variable (without taking into account potential resistances to pierce/slash) damage. Plus, this is damage you can divide among multiple enemies. Same thing, but with Assassination: Firetooth +3 -> 147 * 7 attacks (main hand) = 1029 damage Belm +2 -> 112 * 2 attacks (offhand) = 224 damage = 1 trap spent, 1 round = 1253 non-variable (without taking into account potential resistances to pierce/slash) damage. Plus, this is damage you can divide among multiple enemies (eg backstabs for everyone aaaaand fall) and you can still do a lot of damage without Time Traps, it's just that auto-hit is great to make sure every attack hits. All in all, Time Traps often (not always, ofc) provide more value per use than Spike Traps, especially cause you can divide the damage among several enemies. With a properly geared Assassin, in most fights even without Righteous Magic IH+Assasination+Time Trap = 9 dead enemies in 1 round, so you can start doing this in SoA easily. EDIT: also, when you think about probabilities, even though Spike Trap does 20d6 and technically that's 20-120 damage, in reality there's a ~83% chance to roll in the 60-80 range or ~53% to roll in the 65-75 range, so their damage is largely inferior to what it may seem at first, meanwhile, out Time Trap strategy rolls max damage always due to Righteous Magic! And, supposedly, another trap exists... Hmmm... Don't bother, folks. OTHER HIGH-LEVEL ABILITIES Greater Evasion: dope! -6 bonus to AC, -3 bonus to saving throws, movement rate +2 and immunity to normal missiles. Lasts 5 rounds. I get 2 just in case, but it's rarely needed tbh. You got access to a lot of AC reducing gear with a thief (this is without Greater Evasion or any buffs and I could still get -2 if I used the Ring of Earth Control and the Cloak of the Dark Moon, but I'd rather keep my regen and thac0 stuff). Scribe Scrolls: unfortunately pointless. The only half-decent spells you can easily get from other items (wands, White Dragon Scale etc.). Do not invest! Avoid Death: -5 bonus to Save vs. Death, immunity to instant death effects, and +20 Hit Points. Lasts 5 rounds. It's aight. I get 2 later in the game just in case, but I rarely use it (good against Planetars so you don't get vorpal'd, would be good against Balors' vorpal effect too, but you can just Assassinate them). THE GREAT LIST OF BACKSTAB-IMMUNE ENEMIES! OH, THE DESPAIR! "Thieves are useless, there are too many backstab immune enemies!". Is that really the case? I mean, I know it's subjective (what you think are "too many", I mean), but too me the list is pretty short. The only thing that bothers me is ToB bosses being immune to it, but you can still handily deal with them as I'll show later. I think people think a lot of enemies are immune to backstab just cause they see past invisibility (like Demons do), but Assassination still works on them. So... Here's the list: SoA/ToB backstab-immune enemies: General enemy types: -Barbarians (fun fact: there are almost no Barbarians in SoA/ToB and the majority of them are specific measly Orcs/Orogs/Minotaurs) -Beholders (all types) <- Trap, even regular traps do it most of the time. -Demiliches (NOT Liches in general) <- Use Spell Immunity from a scroll or Protection from Undead if you're low level. -Devas/Planetars <-You should kill mage/clerics before they can summon them, but if you can't just Time Trap or Spike Trap. -Dragons <- Time Trap handles them easily or just use a scroll of disintegration. -Golems -Slimes/Oozes -A lot of mists/wraiths (I can't tell whether it's all of them or not, so I listed them below) Specific enemies: -3 out of the 6 enemies in the Heart Key fight in Watcher's Keep Final Seal level (The Huntress, the Hive Mother and Ameralis are immune, so Nalmissra, Xei Win Toh and even Y'Tossi are vulnerable) -Aesgareth and his party -Bone fiends (Bone Golem-looking demons) -Specific demons in fight 2-5 of the Black Pits II (for some reason... Even the Lesser Demon Lord in the Underdark is vulnerable, so why make these ones invulnerable?) -Garock/Rock (the two minotaurs at the Machine of Lum level of Watcher's Keep) -Guardian spirit (don't even remember who this is) -Kiser (dude causing some mischief in Saradush) -Liches, only two of them (Azamantes, the Spike Trap-able, along with his flaming skulls and Vongoethe in Amkethran) -Mists/Wraiths: Mist/Swamp/Wandering Horrors, Vampiric Wraiths/Mists, Spellhaunts, Slave Wraiths and Demon Wraith (Watcher's Keep maze level) -Velithuu (the ice salamander-looking demons in the Watcher's Keep Maze level) Bosses (ie enemies you have to fight finish the game, plus Demogorgon cause he's the "boss" of Watcher's Keep): -The Bhaalspawns (Balthazar, Gromnir, Illasera, Sendai, Yaga-Shura and his Lieutenants) -Demogorgon -Melissan -Nyalee (technically a boss lol) -Ravager and its Bone Blades Everything else can be backstabbed! Including: -Bodhi -Irenicus -The Slayer -Pretty much every Demon (even the Lesser Demon Lord in the Underdark) -Almost every Lich (even Kangaxx and Shangalar) -Greater Werewolves/Wolfweres -Mind Flayers (even their Master Brain) -The Watcher's Keep statues -Rakshasa -Fire Giants -Drow and so on (what else worries people?) If they see past invisibility, just pop that assassination, brother! And for those that can't be backstabbed we always have Time Traps! 9APR of auto-hit max damage is no joke. And takes us to... ENEMIES IMMUNE TO TIME TRAP/STOP They are just a few: -Demogorgon -Melissan -Ravager -Abazigal -Aurumach/Ferrumach Rilmani -Balthazar (only while in Lunar Stance) -Guardian Spirit (who???) Not that many and, really, the only ones who are a big deal in the non-tactical challenge SCS Insane game are Melissan and Ravager (which I'll cover later). Aurumach is also immune to +3 weapons and under, but he's too squishy to be a bother and can partially be hurt by normal traps (he's immune to magical damage, so Spike Traps don't work and the poison part of normal traps also doesn't work). ENEMIES THAT REQUIRE +4 WEAPONS Also not too many: Ravager Aurumach Rilmani <- mentioned it before, too squishy to be a bother. Fallen Solar (NOT Fallen Planetar, it's the one from the Melissan battle) <- lure and 2-3 spike traps handles it Demiliches <- usual cheese Lesser Demon Lord <- vulnerable to Time Trap and backstabs SO HOW DO WE DEAL WITH THEM TOB BOSSES? Demogorgon: Spike Traps. Bye. Yaga-Shura: Time Trap, hit him. Then deal with Lieutenants until you find him and then Time Trap him again. Sendai:actually one of the most annoying fights in the game for single class solo thieves, because there are sooooo many enemies to handle it's a big bother. The important part is to Spike Trap her clones that cast magic before they spawn and to put a Time Trap at the left of the arena before killing that last clone (who's pretty weak, thankfully, so you can take your time to set things up), that way the reinforcements will trigger the Time Trap along with the real Sendai spawning and you can just hit her until she dies and she can't do anything. Remember that you have a million different sources of Improved Haste at this point, so you can re-buff. EDIT: Read about the Staff of the Magi on the weapons section. I fucked up and didn't have it cause I forgot to get it before moving on to ToB. Abazigal: pre-fight 1 Time Trap to kill his human form in 1 round, 6 Spike Traps somewhere else -> Dragon (Time Trap immune), get him to trigger the 6 Spike Traps, then run and Spike Trap one or two times more. Dead. In vanilla it would be way easier cause dragons don't get the x3 SCS buff to HP. Balthazar: one Time Trap. Done. Yeaaaah, he's too easy for pretty much every party, I should re-install the improved version of his fight at least. Ravager: Time Trap AND backstab immunity! What a meanie! Besides the usual buffs (improved haste+righteous magic) and prioritizing thac0 boosting equipment, I used Black Blade of Disaster + 3 scrolls of Protection from Magical Weapons + 1 of Absolute Immunity. Harder to think of what to do than to actually do it. You gotta get a little lucky so that PfMW doesn't run out as he hits you and does the stun (sleep?) stuff on you or that you don't get dispelled too soon. Not too bad once you know what to do. Melissan: again Time Trap and backstab immunity. The first phase is the whole fight, pretty much. Usual buffs (improved haste+righteous magic) + BBD + Spell Immunity: Abjuration (to prevent dispel) can end it fast before it gets outta control. After that it's just a matter of abusing Spike Trap (4 traps for each phase) by using Simulacrums (scrolls or Vhailor's), Project Images and/or Rest Wishes (stop hoarding scrolls, it's the final fight!). RANDOM STATS Total scrolls I used in the whole playthrough: -3 Disintegrations for dragons (Firkraag/Thaxll'ssillyia/Saladrex). I coulda Time Trapped and hit them for a few times but this is easier. -2 Black Blades of Disaster (Ravager + Melissan's first phase). -2 Simulacrums (Melissan trap shennanigans). -3 Protection from Magical Weapons (Ravager). -1 Absolute Immunity, which coulda been another PfMW (Ravager). -1 Protection from Undead (to kill Kangaxx's Demilich form early on). Basically, feel free to use more scrolls than I did, cause you rarely need them. Wands I used: -1 charge of a wand of spellstriking to Breach Melissan at the start of her first phase. -3 charges of a wand of cloudkill on random enemies after getting UAI, then I forgot about it. Coulda used a lot more wands (especially spellstriking, but with regen and stuff I just waited til PfMWs ran out on some mages and so on), but I was too busy having fun with Time Trap Assassinations trying to kill as many enemies before they fell to the ground. How many times I used the super cheesy Nymph Cloak that I love but avoided using to focus on thief-related strats: -A few times against Rakshasa very early in the game (Watcher's Keep rakshasa can destroy a good deal of the second level on its own). -Once to charm the mage in the Aesgareth fight very early in the game to rush the +1 STR (Machine of Lum) and +2 DEX (Lum + Deck of Many Things). FINAL VERDICT Tons of fun. It's actually been a while since I last bothered to really finish Throne of Bhaal all the way through, but I was having so much fun with my Assassin that I did it. And it's boooooooooooooooooooooooooooonkers to think that some people think they're underpowered. Bonkers! They're almost fightemage/thieves on their own. And even if you don't like positioning for backstabs... You barely need it. I pretty much only did that before I got Assassination (and even then I didn't need to rely on it too much cause I already had 8APR and so on), afterwards it's Assassination-a-palooza. Too bad you only get 1 so you have to rest a bunch though, but you can still do plenty of damage with just Time Traps if you don't wanna abuse resting.
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